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Old 11-12-2014 | 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by PurpleTurtle
What?

Making $Bs is fine if the employees are respected. Lying to us about building trust and industry leading contracts, while offering a land grab concessionary contract is complete BS.
Understand, agree with you on that.
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Old 11-12-2014 | 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by 70Espada
OK, I like the way you think, but......... APA already bargained everything away. The industry leading leftovers of the AWA contract (yes, I know there wasn't much) and the remaining good things of legacy US..... GONE, or at least soon to be. Trip duty rigs, IVR jump seat system, LTD, etc, etc. Buh bye. They also agreed to binding arbitration, so if we turn this down, how do you think we'll fair with an arbitrator? Don't get me wrong, I'm thankfull for the merger and understand the APA wanting to get rid of Horton, but we won't be matching you for a long time. Could you walk in my resume?
We are all held hostage by this, arent we? There is a way, but unfortunately many of today's pilots are timid, conservative and dont really want to rattle the cage. The era of 911, bankruptcy, layoffs, threats etc has done its job of resetting our wages.

Best of luck to all of us. I guess we have succumbed. Just make sure APA and AA give you Delta of C2015 not of C2012.
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Old 11-12-2014 | 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by TenYearsGone
We are all held hostage by this, arent we? There is a way, but unfortunately many of today's pilots are timid, conservative and dont really want to rattle the cage. The era of 911, bankruptcy, layoffs, threats etc has done its job of resetting our wages.

Best of luck to all of us. I guess we have succumbed. Just make sure APA and AA give you Delta of C2015 not of C2012.
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Parker has just united this group. The cage will be rattled.
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Old 11-12-2014 | 04:34 PM
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I suppose listening to that conference call was a little uplifting. I love our scope dude, for anyone who hasn't heard how passionate he is listen to the audio clip of him on the apa website. He backed it up on the call, he was at a lost for words!
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Old 11-12-2014 | 04:44 PM
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Parker proposed we give him the whole damn farm.

70 seat RJs up to 75% of narrow body fleet.
+ 76 seat RJs up to 40% of narrow body fleet.
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Old 11-12-2014 | 04:53 PM
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The call was worth it. No give on scope. Pay us.
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Old 11-12-2014 | 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Gallifrey
The call was worth it. No give on scope. Pay us.
Yup...

To loosely quote one of the guys...Time to pull the pin and stand back.
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Old 11-12-2014 | 06:24 PM
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I hope you guys stand strong on this. You deserve a heck of a lot more, not to mention domestic flying needs to go back to major airlines, not massive regional airlines paying subpar rates with subpar quality of life.
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Old 11-12-2014 | 07:28 PM
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Please Please Please for the love of God, don't cave on the scope. Mainline routes, mainline planes, mainline pilots, for mainline pay
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Old 11-12-2014 | 07:44 PM
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I was in attendance for our DFW Domicile meeting this past Monday. It was great to see the hall full of people that were dead set against scope. Hearing it from 777 Capt's who at the twighlight of their careers could give a crap about it made me feel better about where the membership is on this issue (not just the jr folks). Scope is DOA here...any form of it.
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