West gets a seat
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Please.
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That's the golden question. We have judge Silver stating an arbitration is an indication of a fair result and discarding an arbitration places a union "on dangerous grounds." Then you have Javits asking Pauley "are you now the new Nicolau" indicating he clearly doesn't believe Pauley has the authority to decide what's fair in combining the East and West. I fail to see how an AA MC will get a better reception deciding how the East and West list should be combined. There are no separate East and West equities. The company has been merged since 2005. AA can propose whatever they like but the only combined Airways list which exists, and has been accepted by Doug Parker, is the NIC. No other list has been accepted by Parker and I'm not even sure one has been proposed by USAPA.
If the LAA committee doesn't take a position on the "pre-merger career expectations" of West pilots, how can that concept even be in play for arbitral consideration ?
I think you are confusing what you WANT out of this situation as opposed to what it will be.
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A true statement. No two SLI's are identical and each hinges on its own merits and issues (even stated in the UAL/CAL award). This SLI is more complicated then any past SLI and will not mimic the UAL/CAL award, but will have strong similarities in foundation.
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Eagle = Turtle... Hence, the sarcasm-laced responses when their bull$h!t catches up with either of them. Seriously, the two are much alike in that they both attempt to pass off their opinions as facts. Verbose, sarcastic and opinionated, these two apples I think fell from the exact same tree. I mean, professing in multiple posts to know what the AA merger committee's position is on Nicolau? And then announcing said position on a public message board??? Ha ha ha ha
Yeah, sure. I think I will just continue to wait comfortably for the arbitrators to rule
Yeah, sure. I think I will just continue to wait comfortably for the arbitrators to rule
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Nobody listens to you except me driver. I think two reasons. One my name. It is from the only airplane I ever picked up brand spanking new at the factory. A Metro I. Maintenance ate our lunch and we sold it after max deductions crap our tax attorney calculated. Second I bust their balloon. So much emotion they get wrapped up and just don't want to believe. I consider myself mostly UN biased. But they don't pay me so whatever they want. Unicorns ****tin fruity candy OK by me.
Sorry to hear your heart is letting you down. Hope you feel better. Well, it beats the other shoe that I have been diagnosed with. Vascular Dementia. So don't listen to me very much longer.
On another note, how does captain ahole feel about this contract BS?
Sorry to hear your heart is letting you down. Hope you feel better. Well, it beats the other shoe that I have been diagnosed with. Vascular Dementia. So don't listen to me very much longer.

On another note, how does captain ahole feel about this contract BS?
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They do not because they have no knowledge how or what this arbitration can do. It is simple really. Two airlines. Three pilot groups. The arbitrators can either 1)take all three list and create a single list to their formula 2) take APA and a re-combined US list (using either their own formula or some some form of NIC) and create a list. What they DO NOT have to do is what everyone wants. They are NOT required to use the NIC. They are NOT required to use DOH. They are not required to consider LOS. In fact they can to do as they see fit as long as they can articulate it is fair and reasonable. If East and West focus their energy on their previous fight they will lose a lot to APA. This arbitration (as basically all are) is different than all previous. It stands on its own. No person can predict accurately what will happen. I do expect something close to UAL/CAL IF East and West cannot work together. If they can I would expect something a bit closer than UAL/CAL. I will predict the West will not be fenced from the East WB.
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BS. First phrase- never believe anyone that says "this is a true statement". First sentence. Why yes that is correct. The second sentence. BS starts here. You just said the sun coming up tomorrow won't mimic the sun rise today, but it will kinda look like it.
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I'll just leave you with a thought to chew on. Remember when the arbitrator asked the east merger committee chairman if he was the "new Nicolau"? I think you understand what he was getting at, let's see if the LAA committee is stupid enough to be "the new Nicolau" in the upcoming arb.
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