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01-13-2015, 06:32 PM
#21
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Originally Posted by aa73
Cacti,
It's a common misconception but this is incorrect.
What the July 1 date signifies is the beginning of calculating the appropriate ASMs, in order to start the PROCESS of calculating pay, into motion. Not the actual pay rates.
So Delta has until 1/1/16 to come up with their new contract.
This has been verified by a union officer for me.
I, too, thought July 1 was the drop dead date. It's not.
Regards,
73
It's a common misconception but this is incorrect.
What the July 1 date signifies is the beginning of calculating the appropriate ASMs, in order to start the PROCESS of calculating pay, into motion. Not the actual pay rates.
So Delta has until 1/1/16 to come up with their new contract.
This has been verified by a union officer for me.
I, too, thought July 1 was the drop dead date. It's not.
Regards,
73
01-14-2015, 05:24 AM
#22
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Settle down Homey. Yes, I realize the arbitration would happen in September. I'm just pointing out that the process would begin July 1 and be arbitrated in September, and that the actual Delta pay rate would be for 1/1/16, not July 1 2015 as many believe.
01-14-2015, 06:00 AM
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Originally Posted by aa73
Settle down Homey. Yes, I realize the arbitration would happen in September. I'm just pointing out that the process would begin July 1 and be arbitrated in September, and that the actual Delta pay rate would be for 1/1/16, not July 1 2015 as many believe.
01-14-2015, 06:04 AM
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Originally Posted by cactiboss
But the rate has to be in place by September, and that rate has to be 29% more than they make now, odds of that?
Anderson would jump on that like white on rice! He is a CEO that can think past the end of his nose.
01-14-2015, 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by PurpleTurtle
Anderson would jump on that like white on rice! He is a CEO that can think past the end of his nose.
Genius!!
01-14-2015, 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by QX400
LOL.... So you think that he will increase his costs by 29%, not to mention the increase in the DC that comes with it, just so AAs costs go up a small fraction of that after averaged with DL & UAL....
Genius!!
Genius!!
It won't matter. Anderson's cost will be much higher than Parker's because Glass is the genius. He has folks doing double back flip jack knifes trying to calculate 500 different variables... But the only one that matters is that Parker is raking in $10 Billion and is prepared to buy what he needs that he can't get in arbitration. Even so, pilots always go ugly early for Glass. Always.
The union president showed indignation that Kirby took away Retro.. How convenient for Kirby... If Wilson wanted to help Kirby more I don't know how he would.... Great timing. Haven't heard much else.
01-14-2015, 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by PurpleTurtle
It isn't a "cost" comparison... .. Never mind.
It won't matter. Anderson's cost will be much higher than Parker's because Glass is the genius. He has folks doing double back flip jack knifes trying to calculate 500 different variables... But the only one that matters is that Parker is raking in $10 Billion and is prepared to buy what he needs that he can't get in arbitration. Even so, pilots always go ugly early for Glass. Always.
The union president showed indignation that Kirby took away Retro.. How convenient for Kirby... If Wilson wanted to help Kirby more I don't know how he would.... Great timing. Haven't heard much else.
It won't matter. Anderson's cost will be much higher than Parker's because Glass is the genius. He has folks doing double back flip jack knifes trying to calculate 500 different variables... But the only one that matters is that Parker is raking in $10 Billion and is prepared to buy what he needs that he can't get in arbitration. Even so, pilots always go ugly early for Glass. Always.
The union president showed indignation that Kirby took away Retro.. How convenient for Kirby... If Wilson wanted to help Kirby more I don't know how he would.... Great timing. Haven't heard much else.
This group is toast and it's future as the bottom feeders of the legacy carriers is assured. 2020 is going to a downright hilarious combination of mirth and melodrama as the rats feed on each other.
Wait till 2020. Many of us will be falling over each other to help Parkirby and Glass hose the minority again for quick $$$.
01-14-2015, 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by eaglefly
Actually, I know for a fact many of the chiefs and even Parkirby themselves got a lot of emails from those wanting to vote yes saying their coup-de-gras was in jeopardy over retro (two months bribe pay). Talk about a large chunk of the membership actually subverting their own union !
This group is toast and it's future as the bottom feeders of the legacy carriers is assured. 2020 is going to a downright hilarious combination of mirth and melodrama as the rats feed on each other.
Wait till 2020. Many of us will be falling over each other to help Parkirby and Glass hose the minority again for quick $$$.
This group is toast and it's future as the bottom feeders of the legacy carriers is assured. 2020 is going to a downright hilarious combination of mirth and melodrama as the rats feed on each other.
Wait till 2020. Many of us will be falling over each other to help Parkirby and Glass hose the minority again for quick $$$.
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