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Old 01-14-2015, 06:01 PM
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Actually, I know for a fact many of the chiefs and even Parkirby themselves got a lot of emails from those wanting to vote yes saying their coup-de-gras was in jeopardy over retro (two months bribe pay). Talk about a large chunk of the membership actually subverting their own union !

This group is toast and it's future as the bottom feeders of the legacy carriers is assured. 2020 is going to a downright hilarious combination of mirth and melodrama as the rats feed on each other.

Wait till 2020. Many of us will be falling over each other to help Parkirby and Glass hose the minority again for quick $$$.
Of course they showed the same indignation as their union president... He's the leader.. It's over. The president stepped in and kneecapped us all while he was swinging at Kirby. Kirby laughed that Wilson ignored every single item proposed in the BODs counter.. But instead he keyed up over retro that Kirby yanked and planned to put back... Now everyone thinks Kirby "caved" into the mighty president... It was like poetry, bro. A choreographed freaking play. Acts 1, 2, and 3. The end.

We would have been happier if we were born with our skirt flipped over our head like the rest of them.
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Old 01-14-2015, 06:23 PM
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Found some video from when APA was negotiating the MOU...
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Old 01-15-2015, 08:54 PM
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Found some video from when APA was negotiating the MOU...
The APA BOD counter was extremely reasonable, and no one was celebrating the counter, especially not the LAX kneecapper BOD meberbers.
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Old 01-16-2015, 06:43 AM
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I'm starting to think a yes vote will be better so there will be one extra year of retirements before the next negotiations. Maybe enough regional guys that remember how important work rules are will be on property at that time and will actually have the numbers to matter in the vote.

Sarcasm. Sort of.
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Old 01-26-2015, 08:05 AM
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I'm a Delta guy. RA has said as well as our Sr. VP Flight Ops that one of their goals is to have an agreement in place before the amendable date. That will probably happen. We did last time. RA wants labor peace. Our profit sharing for 2014 was %16.5 of our annual W2. Next years forecast by some is for our PS to equal %25 of our annual pay. Delta's debt after the merger was $17Billion. Now its around $7Billion and the goal is $5Billion in two years. That saves major interest dollars. Investment grade credit rating is on the horizon. Fuel is down, RASM is up, inefficient 50 seat RJs are shrinking. 2014 profit was about $4.5Billion. 2015 is forecast to be around $6Billion. Delta seems to be printing money.

Having said all of that, our Profit Sharing for the future looks stellar. I hear the pilot survey was strong and clear that we don't want to give up any profit sharing. We can put up to %100 of it into our 401K up to the IRS limit.

I'm sure American will be in the same state in the future that Delta is now. Not sure if it's still possible but you may want to consider holding out for some type of profit sharing formula if possible. Nice way to get more without having to visit with Dougweiser. Anyway, good luck.

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I apologize for changing the subject, but quick question. With all the weather cancellations upcoming, if your trip and/ or flight gets cancelled, does LUS pilots get paid for it now? I thought I heard that with green book now you should. Do you need to file a claim?
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I apologize for changing the subject, but quick question. With all the weather cancellations upcoming, if your trip and/ or flight gets cancelled, does LUS pilots get paid for it now? I thought I heard that with green book now you should. Do you need to file a claim?
If you're asking me the Delta guy, the answer is yes we get paid for the trip. No we don't have to file a claim. We may be subject to recovery flying if it falls within the contractual guidelines but we are paid the trip guarantee or actual flying whichever is greater. Minimum daily pay is 5:15 per day.

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Originally Posted by b73nav8r View Post
If you're asking me the Delta guy, the answer is yes we get paid for the trip. No we don't have to file a claim. We may be subject to recovery flying if it falls within the contractual guidelines but we are paid the trip guarantee or actual flying whichever is greater. Minimum daily pay is 5:15 per day.

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Thanks for the info, but I was hoping a LUS guy could give a heads up on our current rule for cancelation pay.
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