How much of the flying lost by AA was replaced by AE?

Yes I do... I think we'll see many improvements over the life of this contract. Parker knows this too...he just didn't want to give away everything in one shot (the JCBA), knowing that he's gonna have to continue negotiating down the line. That's playing it smart and being a good negotiator. Most No voters wanted everything now, not realizing we're gonna get a crack at it later on. Pilots have never gotten the whole enchilada on their very first post-bk contract. See delta and united and compare....their first post-bk JCBAs were nothing to write home about.

Second post answer regarding RJs. AA is doing exactly what delta is doing, but with A319s. A319s are re-entering small markets and taking over many Eagle routes. I don't see a massive E195 order to replace Group 2 flying for the very simple reason that they have a very profitable group 2 operation doing that already, just like delta. And if I'm wrong and they DO order the -195s, we have them at mainline...something we've been fighting for YEARS. Remember the mantra, "get the jet on the property and work pay upwards from there." That's what we did.

Had we gotten 717s like delta, I guarantee they'd be placed in group 2. AA tried to place the A319 in group 1 and look what happened. Same situation would happen with a 717 order.

Not if the aircraft were to replace a percentage of S80 flying. That would be REPLACEMENT flying. I agree any flying recaptured from regionals would be insourced. Look at ORD. What is it now.......half its former size ? If recapturing former AA flying outsourced to regional flying added several hundred jobs at ORD, I suppose that would be good, but they would likely be Group I jobs.

Well, clearly you see what you want to see. I can't see that. The US Airways guys (both East and West in their single area of agreement) told us what Parker was and many of us didn't listen or wished upon a star. We were wrong and they were right.

Now, you're saying Parker is an altrusitic guy that really wants to give us all the things he just denied us, but peacemeal in the future ?

Sorry, but I know when I have been punked and Parker punked us. ALL of us. At this point, I have to defer to the reality that Parker is just has he has proved to be at US Airways for over a decade (consistantly) and proved to us just now what he is and that is what we can expect in the future. I'd love for you to be right, but I think you're dreaming.

We can agree to disagree. Conversely, I think you're under a constant dark cloud of pessimism that doesn't allow you to extract any type of satisfaction no matter how good you have it... But hey to each their own. I always try and find the best in everything we have, makes me fun to be around :D

Parker played it well, no doubt. But I also think we did too...we chose wisely and positioned ourselves quite well for the next round. Now had we voted this down, he REALLY would have punked us well!

In the end, eaglefly, I don't believe there will be one single E195 that replaces an -80, given the huge fleet of A319s and 737s on order that are doing just that, today, into small cities previously served by the -80s and Eagle. I see AA doing the same exact thing as delta, using our A319s.

Well, we've come to conclusion then. Time will prove one of us correct and I hope it's you. As for your apparent belief that my perspective of our collective future means I'm some depressed guy who only knows how to wallow in miserable "dissatisfaction" regarless of what I'm doing, you haven't met many of the captains I've flown with, nor the people that know me. ;)

Well I have no doubt you're a decent bloke, it just seems you're always down on here. So I'll chalk it up to the "cyber-filter" of human emotions and patients it back. Hope I'm right too...
Cheers!

Funny, but I think all of the F/O's I've flown with would say the same about me. My life is GREAT in comparison to many others. I continue to count my blessings everyday.

Really ?

Well, none of them would have been liberals then or worse yet, union-hugging Communists. If they were, I bet they were too uncomfortable to admit it and be verbally pummeled for the remainder of the trip.

Perhaps for many, their uncomfortable silence was mistaken for fondness ? :rolleyes:

Well we seemed to get along for lunch and dinner on the layovers. As far as the union issue, they actually agree with me. Verbally pummeled? REALLY? If they had an issue with me they have ALWAYS been welcome to voice it. And to be accurate, almost ALL despise Mr. "O" and voted Republican.

There didn't seem to be noticeable silence when talking about the....VOTE!! Most wanted it, most didn't think the APA was representing their interests and MOST were simply glad they had a JOB!!!

Just like you Communist sympathizers you still try to deflect rather than FACE the real issues.

Question? Name me ONE THING the APA did for the pilots in the last three years since the BK that the rank and file can point to demonstrating the APA can get US ANY contract improvements???