PurpleTurtle

The West has been involved in premature celebration for a decade. Same old same old. Scary stories of doom always right around the corner. If you don't wear a Liberty Tie, you better hold your breath.

eaglefly

I dunno. Civil and Criminal are two different animals. But, it shows what path one can end up when a crusade goes too far. I'm beginning to see a few on the West embrace such a philosophy which if it should antagonize the arbitrators.......well, that would not be good. Some of them are now hurling threats and ultimatums all over the place and indiscriminantly roaring growls of intimidation and domination.

Like I said, this SLI is different from any past SLI and this is simply another example. Has ANYONE ever heard of another SLI that had so much bull**** (and bull****ers) tethered to it as this one ?

eaglefly

Well, clearly, at least lately, it seems a few have let their BVD's get a bit sticky just because she said yes, at least in regard to realizing their proposed ISL. As far as USAPA officers personal jeopardy, the jury is still out on that (maybe even literally in the future).

PurpleTurtle

MB was not repealed. If it had been then I would agree the money should have been returned.

Strictly speaking the division of the former USAir pilots was not in accord with MB, but it was arbitrated and we can all live with the three groups (except for the integrity soaked West pilots).

Now that the contracts and the MB arbitrators have developed into three merger committees, I personally think it reasonable that the USAPA funds be divided proportionally to the East and West merger committees.

The Arbs don't appear to be intimidated. Personally I think they have written about 98% of their decision and they are just biding their time until it's time to publish it, once the clock on MB theatrics runs out.

Silver's grenade remains the wild card.


The Arbs and the three merger committees are all immune from suits afterwards. The ONLY group without immunity is the APA. They have the contractual obligation as well as the DFR to ensure the contracts and MB statute proceed fairly. I suspect they will (as they secretly pray to TWA RENO everyone ).

Frisco727

I think the APA is aware of their obligations. As far as your immunity comments as related to lawsuits, you seem to have run into a money crunch thanks to the Westies.

PurpleTurtle

You seem to suggest the APA would disregard their DFR if they think they possess de facto immunity due to a potential complainant's status of being underfunded.

I personally have little respect for the APA's ability to improve pilot life, but even so I doubt the APA would signal any disregard of their DFR to ensure the protocol agreement and MB process are followed. Quite the opposite, they will vigorously present a protection of protocol and MB rights, as they have thus far (to their credit).

Frisco727

Would you like to compare the track record of USAPA vs the APA? Let's see that USAPA contract which led to improvements in the quality of pilot life as you call it. It appears all you ever excelled at was contributing to the quality of life for attorneys. Nicely done.

PurpleTurtle

Yeah, APA isn't as sh!tty as it could be, unless I was a TWA pilot.

Even so I still think the APA will continue to vigorously voice their advocacy of the protocol agreement and the MB process (to their credit, in case you missed it the first time).

CanoePilot

Wow, this whole situation must be becoming like a bad nightmare for the USAPA leaders.

LIOG41

Since USAirways has hired lots of third listers and fourth listers, how about we stop grouping all east pilots into "scumbag" east pilots. Lots of us have been hired on the east and have no dog in the fight.