USAPA gets a TRO locking up money
08-27-2015, 09:31 AM
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Scumbag east pilots like Bradford are financially ruined, it's happening right before our eyes and this order today is just the beginning of the process. Money they (BOD) misspent this past year (seven figures) is going to be repaid out of their personal funds, the trial coming up in OCT or NOV will have to be financed with non-union funds- they CANNOT USE UNION DUES TO DEFEND THEMSELVES!!! Oh God this is a great week!!! LOL
08-27-2015, 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by GrapeNuts
Scumbag east pilots like Bradford are financially ruined, it's happening right before our eyes and this order today is just the beginning of the process. Money they (BOD) misspent this past year is going to be repaid out of their personal funds, the trial coming up in OCT or NOV will have to be financed with non-union funds- they CANNOT USE UNION DUES TO DEFEND THEMSELVES!!! Oh God this is a great week!!! LOL
I think this is literal a demonstration of what Silver's reference to a "Pyrrhic Victory" meant.
08-27-2015, 09:57 AM
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I'm no lawyer, but how far of a stretch could it be to see some of these USAPA yokels in a criminal court in the future?
If you ask me, this entire USAPA experiment was destined for the criminal courts.
At any rate, the APA has a very good roadmap to use to stay out of trouble, and can see that PHX pilots will protect their LMRDA rights and hold the APA to it's duty of fair representation.
And to the AA pilots, don't think you can use the delay tactics the east did and get away with it because:
IT WON'T WORK.
East pilots think upgrading out of Nic order was worth it, but soon they will forever be junior to those they leapfrogged.
If you ask me, this entire USAPA experiment was destined for the criminal courts.
At any rate, the APA has a very good roadmap to use to stay out of trouble, and can see that PHX pilots will protect their LMRDA rights and hold the APA to it's duty of fair representation.
And to the AA pilots, don't think you can use the delay tactics the east did and get away with it because:
IT WON'T WORK.
East pilots think upgrading out of Nic order was worth it, but soon they will forever be junior to those they leapfrogged.
08-27-2015, 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by 757HI
I'm no lawyer, but how far of a stretch could it be to see some of these USAPA yokels in a criminal court in the future?
If you ask me, this entire USAPA experiment was destined for the criminal courts.
At any rate, the APA has a very good roadmap to use to stay out of trouble, and can see that PHX pilots will protect their LMRDA rights and hold the APA to it's duty of fair representation.
And to the AA pilots, don't think you can use the delay tactics the east did and get away with it because:
IT WON'T WORK.
East pilots think upgrading out of Nic order was worth it, but soon they will forever be junior to those they leapfrogged.
If you ask me, this entire USAPA experiment was destined for the criminal courts.
At any rate, the APA has a very good roadmap to use to stay out of trouble, and can see that PHX pilots will protect their LMRDA rights and hold the APA to it's duty of fair representation.
And to the AA pilots, don't think you can use the delay tactics the east did and get away with it because:
IT WON'T WORK.
East pilots think upgrading out of Nic order was worth it, but soon they will forever be junior to those they leapfrogged.
[sound of APA and LAA pilots knocking over furniture, scrambling in all directions to flee the terror of the roaring Lion Leo].
You go girl !
08-27-2015, 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by eaglefly
Yes, they should have separated former West funds upon dissolution of USAPA as a bargaining agent and returned that when they had the chance. It was obviously improper to hijack that money for self-serving purposes.
I think this is literal a demonstration of what Silver's reference to a "Pyrrhic Victory" meant.
I think this is literal a demonstration of what Silver's reference to a "Pyrrhic Victory" meant.
No money was hijacked. Should APA pay back dues to the former TWA pilots? How about the former Reno pilots? The courts never litigated the statutory MB rights of the bargaining agents of covered employees in a covered transaction.
The courts have done nothing to litigate MB. Thankfully USAPA, APA, an the company, in their wisdom, have already negotiated contacts to implement MB and the courts won't touch those contracts with a ten foot pole. The Arbs will press ahead and ignore all the sideshows dressed in robes.
08-27-2015, 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by eaglefly
Yes, they should have separated former West funds upon dissolution of USAPA as a bargaining agent and returned that when they had the chance. It was obviously improper to hijack that money for self-serving purposes.
I think this is literal a demonstration of what Silver's reference to a "Pyrrhic Victory" meant.
I think this is literal a demonstration of what Silver's reference to a "Pyrrhic Victory" meant.
08-27-2015, 10:13 AM
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No money hijacked???!! That what this TRO is all about, and the upcoming permanent injunction.
Originally Posted by PurpleTurtle
No money was hijacked. Should APA pay back dues to the former TWA pilots? How about the former Reno pilots? The courts never litigated the statutory MB rights of the bargaining agents of covered employees in a covered transaction.
The courts have done nothing to litigate MB. Thankfully USAPA, APA, an the company, in their wisdom, have already negotiated contacts to implement MB and the courts won't touch those contracts with a ten foot pole. The Arbs will press ahead and ignore all the sideshows dressed in robes.
The courts have done nothing to litigate MB. Thankfully USAPA, APA, an the company, in their wisdom, have already negotiated contacts to implement MB and the courts won't touch those contracts with a ten foot pole. The Arbs will press ahead and ignore all the sideshows dressed in robes.
08-27-2015, 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by PurpleTurtle
No money was hijacked. Should APA pay back dues to the former TWA pilots? How about the former Reno pilots? The courts never litigated the statutory MB rights of the bargaining agents of covered employees in a covered transaction.
Originally Posted by PurpleTurtle
The courts have done nothing to litigate MB. Thankfully USAPA, APA, an the company, in their wisdom, have already negotiated contacts to implement MB and the courts won't touch those contracts with a ten foot pole. The Arbs will press ahead and ignore all the sideshows dressed in robes.
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