Rhetorical Question. An Easthole. It's what they excel at.

I don't have the language available to me right now. Just going off what my merger committee is telling me. Of course you guys don't recognize that we ever merged so doesn't surprise me you don't recognize that the ta required all pilots hired after our merger be junior. Go read freunds cross of your "third lister" (pages 419-431) to grab a clue where that argument will end up.

Well, that's the first problem. You're going by hear say. When you get the language, read it. It's written in elementary school languageo and is very clear. As far as merging, our two companies merged "systems," not "pilot seniority lists." So yes, I acknowledge that we've merged. Just waiting on a merger of seniority lists...period of when "separate operations" (as also stated in TA9) become one. So this backs up the argument of two seniority lists, not three. No "Third list." I understand that pilots hired after the "merger date" are to be junior (no one is arguing that). What they are trying to get across here is that junior pilots still make up an East or West Seniority List. (Mostly East List bc West has not hired new pilots until recently). That's called "company of origin). These new pilots bring jobs unlike our friends over at Eagle or pilots who were on furlough for many years. These junior pilots are getting placed junior to pilots who have not even worked at mainline (East, West or AA). So understandably they want to be recognized as an East or West Pilot. Not some stupid "third list" that doesn't even exist.

In what universe are pilots hired after a merger announcement placed on a seniority list higher than pilots employed prior to the merger? To even suggest it nullifies any other related factual data presented.

That universe is called USAPIA.

The Epsic is arguing exactly that, they place original pre merger America west pilots junior to 2012 hires. Absolute lunacy.

I'm talking about the transition agreement that no longer exist here at Airways, that's where the original third Lister came from. I guess it's ok with you that mean ole usapa moved the west furlouged pilots that were hired on the east seniority list in 2011as new hires up the East seniority list in front of the so called third listers with their West date of hire on the east list. With 6 of them hiding with seniority numbers on both lists, some on all three lists hoping to get a better relative position ahead of their own West pilots in the seniority integration. You mean that universe??? The west pilots on the east list with captains positions on the 190 or fo positions on the 330 making thousands more than their senior West pilots you mean that universe?

Do you know how to quote things or provide links?

Seriously, you claim a term "third lister", if such a contractual term exists beyond the confines of your thick skull then you could easily provide us all a link and quote.

I am not familiar with the term in any contract other than the 2005 TA... How about it... Ya got a link to a contract or not?

Wow, how benevolent of your scab union, unreal.

Your tool of a third listed got to read it into the record while his seniority thieving daddy watched