After having flown the T7 prior to coming to the L-US Bus, it was a huge step backwards. Pray that Boeing never follows Airbus logic.

Still got a yoke between your legs. What's amazing is how many ex-737 drivers who used most of the anti-AB arguments (Fifi, Hal, computer etc.) prefer the AB now at LUS.

Electronic checklists are nothing new. Even the EMB-145 has a capability for that.

Put me down as a long time Boeing pilot who has no problem with the Bus...in fact I look forward to the day. From having sat up front on the j/s to all my buds who transitioned, seems like I will enjoy it. And yes I'm a big hand flier, supposedly you can still do that on the Bus?'

Some of the worst (and most avoidable/inexcusable) airline accidents have been caused by the fighter-pilot-does-all-by-himself-while-all-others-clap-like-seals method of flying.

I have more flights without a crew or auto pilot. So what? It's not about ego-coddling (blasphemy!). It's about an approach to flying that mitigates risks.

All hail the Swiss cheese model of error trapping.

If you cannot ever trim an aircraft, are you ever really hand flying it?

Don't get me wrong, the bus is an awesome cubicle (what!?.. I did say it's awesome.) with a high rise corner office view.

If you re-read my posts you'll see that I'm not advocating that, nor do I fly the way you've described. I completely agree that the crew concept combined with SOP's and CRM (TEM) is the best way to mitigate risk. I was just trying to make the point that in the grad scheme of things the PA isn't a big deal.

I take exception to your accusation. I never described the way you fly.

Yes, you can hand fly, but it doubles the workload on your partner. He has to watch you like a hawk and twist and push/pull a lot of knobs. Better to let the automation do it's thing so he can get back to his crossword.

You can hand fly the baby bus just fine. It's more like CWS, make minor corrections in the direction of the runway/FD's and let go of the stick for awhile. Then make new adjustment and repeat the process. I was finger drumming the glareshield while 'hand flying' last trip. It just keeps going in the direction, and pitch attitude, that you had when you stopping making inputs.

Turning off the auto thrust, IMO, works better when the winds aren't stable. Otherwise the thrust goes crazy, more, less, chasing speed changes.

What's the list?