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Saabs 03-24-2016 08:36 AM


Originally Posted by jcountry (Post 2095451)
I can't believe people are actually *****ing about this....

A couple days ago, the profit sharing was zero. Now it is a larger number.

If you hate 5% so much, cash your checks and western union them to me!

I believe we have a right to ***** when our w2's are lower than United and delta's.

aa73 03-24-2016 11:10 AM

Pilots will bee-atch no matter how good they have it. Just in their dna.

Is this as good a deal as united and delta? Nope.

Is this better than what we had? Yep.

Will this put more money in our pockets next year? Yep.

Sure, it's a strategic move. So what? Analyze away. End result is that we increase our earnings, albeit not as lucratively as our brethren. But it's a start.

Small victories folks. I'm in a better mood today than yesterday.

And I'll be standing in line with jcountry to collect your "slap in the face" checks. :D

eaglefly 03-24-2016 12:02 PM


Originally Posted by aa73 (Post 2095601)
Pilots will bee-atch no matter how good they have it. Just in their dna.

Is this as good a deal as united and delta? Nope.

Is this better than what we had? Yep.

Will this put more money in our pockets next year? Yep.

Sure, it's a strategic move. So what? Analyze away. End result is that we increase our earnings, albeit not as lucratively as our brethren. But it's a start.

Small victories folks. I'm in a better mood today than yesterday.

And I'll be standing in line with jcountry to collect your "slap in the face" checks. :D

The whole point of the "relief valve" payoff was to put employees in a "better mood". Those with better moods frequently lose their vigilance and the fire in their belly. Looks like with some, Doug, Scott and Jerry scored another home run and given that, I think it will weaken any ALPA consideration here.

The real beauty is they don't have to pay off for a year. ;) The ROI for Parker with this move is excellent. This is the future, that being a pilot group played like chumps repeatedly because they know nothing else but always, always, always showing the willingness to be blinded by a quick payoff that APPEARS to be free. NOTHING is free with him and we'll experience this again in the future. We are so predictable I don't think he even needs a Jerry anymore. :(

Hueypilot 03-24-2016 05:33 PM


Originally Posted by eaglefly (Post 2095643)
The whole point of the "relief valve" payoff was to put employees in a "better mood". Those with better moods frequently lose their vigilance and the fire in their belly.

Got it. The message is "stay angry".

While we still have plenty of room for improvement, I'll go join the crowd that looks at this as a positive, not a "moment of weakness".

aa73 03-24-2016 06:14 PM


Originally Posted by eaglefly (Post 2095643)
The whole point of the "relief valve" payoff was to put employees in a "better mood". Those with better moods frequently lose their vigilance and the fire in their belly. Looks like with some, Doug, Scott and Jerry scored another home run and given that, I think it will weaken any ALPA consideration here.

The real beauty is they don't have to pay off for a year. ;) The ROI for Parker with this move is excellent. This is the future, that being a pilot group played like chumps repeatedly because they know nothing else but always, always, always showing the willingness to be blinded by a quick payoff that APPEARS to be free. NOTHING is free with him and we'll experience this again in the future. We are so predictable I don't think he even needs a Jerry anymore. :(

I must have the rare ability to stay in a very good mood while keeping plenty of "fire in the belly." It happens to be a personal choice I make every day: I find plenty of things to feel blessed about every day, yes, including my amazing job as a domestic AA 737 FO and yes, including the profit sharing announcement that will put more money in my pocket...among tons of other things that I count as blessings.

That said, I have no problem continuing to strive for a switch to ALPA, as well as hold management accountable for all the contractual failures. I can do all this and still be in a great mood.

Rather than focusing on their strategy behind the profit sharing, I choose to enjoy the extra $$$ while continuing to fight for what we can control.

PRS Guitars 03-24-2016 06:27 PM

^^^^same

Well said...

flyinawa 03-24-2016 06:46 PM


Originally Posted by aa73 (Post 2095948)
I must have the rare ability to stay in a very good mood while keeping plenty of "fire in the belly."

......middle stuff...........

Rather than focusing on their strategy behind the profit sharing, I choose to enjoy the extra $$$ while continuing to fight for what we can control.

Nailed it. I wanna buy you a beer.

aa73 03-24-2016 06:53 PM

Thanks man. Peroni please (I **am** half Italian ;)

Hueypilot 03-24-2016 07:08 PM


Originally Posted by aa73 (Post 2095948)
Good stuff

Excellent post. Every day doesn't have to be a rainy day.

Al Czervik 03-24-2016 09:13 PM


Originally Posted by aa73 (Post 2095992)
Thanks man. Peroni please (I **am** half Italian ;)

Writing in aa73 on my ballot.


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