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A321 09-07-2016 10:44 AM

The list is out, what is next?
 
UNITY.

For over a decade, these 3-4 pilot groups have been turned against each other to management's benefit.

That is over now. We expect weeks or months of complaining about being unhappy about how the list shook out, but eventually we are going to get on the same page and move forward TOGETHER.

ONE PILOT GROUP. THE LARGEST PILOT GROUP IN THE WORLD.

What is next?

1) We need to prepare to be unified for early openers in January 2019. We need work rules and total compensation that matches United and Delta. We will not achieve this if we are not unified.

2) We need to be aware of the psychology of the division that a SLI can present. Management capitalizes on this type of division. Stop it at every chance. Whenever you hear others talking "us versus them" or berating other former pilot groups, remind them that we are NOW ONE and need to be looking forward, not in the rearview.

Who else is on board with looking forward and UNIFYING!?

272922 09-07-2016 01:55 PM


Originally Posted by A321 (Post 2197664)
1) We need to prepare to be unified for early openers in January 2019. We need work rules and total compensation that matches United and Delta. We will not achieve this if we are not unified.

No dog in your fight (yet) but fully agree. Hopefully on the list of things to accomplish by your NC is a 76 seat rate.

Sandhawk 09-07-2016 05:19 PM


Originally Posted by A321 (Post 2197664)
UNITY.

For over a decade, these 3-4 pilot groups have been turned against each other to management's benefit.

That is over now. We expect weeks or months of complaining about being unhappy about how the list shook out, but eventually we are going to get on the same page and move forward TOGETHER.

ONE PILOT GROUP. THE LARGEST PILOT GROUP IN THE WORLD.

What is next?

1) We need to prepare to be unified for early openers in January 2019. We need work rules and total compensation that matches United and Delta. We will not achieve this if we are not unified.

2) We need to be aware of the psychology of the division that a SLI can present. Management capitalizes on this type of division. Stop it at every chance. Whenever you hear others talking "us versus them" or berating other former pilot groups, remind them that we are NOW ONE and need to be looking forward, not in the rearview.

Who else is on board with looking forward and UNIFYING!?

HAHAHAHAHAHA...

There will NEVER be unity!

:eek:

SpecialTracking 09-07-2016 05:45 PM

Best of luck guys. You've seen a lot in the last 15 years. Don't let this define you. Life is short.

Dolphinflyer 09-07-2016 05:54 PM

Simple , rather crude advice.
Put on your condom and pick out the hottest target and be willing to put up with a lot of bullsheet to score.

Hint, the target isn't the Easties, Westies or the NAAtives.

(ps, noticed my AVATAR, I fly every #$%^@ weekend )

chrisreedrules 09-07-2016 05:55 PM

Get a 76 seat rate and take the CRJ900s and ER175s back from your regional partners.

SpecialTracking 09-07-2016 06:00 PM


Originally Posted by Dolphinflyer (Post 2198010)
Simple , rather crude advice.
Put on your condom and pick out the hottest target and be willing to put up with a lot of bullsheet to score.

Hint, the target isn't the Easties, Westies or the NAAtives.

(ps, noticed my AVATAR, I fly every #$%^@ weekend )

Simple, but it works.

A321 09-07-2016 06:11 PM


Originally Posted by chrisreedrules (Post 2198011)
Get a 76 seat rate and take the CRJ900s and ER175s back from your regional partners.

The market forces will push this sooner rather than later. We sure can't wait. Everyone should be working for mainline, there should be no "regionals".

Godzilla 09-07-2016 08:35 PM

Yep, we need to get back calendar day. That was a huge loss and AA has certainly capitalized on it.
Trips that used to pay 15:45 now pay 11:00 hours.
Puts a big hole in an hourly pay bump.
LOS is important. Better furlough benefits would be good too. AA is bottom of the barrel in this regard. United get 10 years pass travel for furloughees.
Get rid of that stupid NO Travel While sick thing too, who else does that?
We are all here, now lets try to make this a good place to work.
There is a lot of work to do here.

Arado 234 09-07-2016 11:05 PM


Originally Posted by Godzilla (Post 2198107)
Yep, we need to get back calendar day. That was a huge loss and AA has certainly capitalized on it.
Trips that used to pay 15:45 now pay 11:00 hours.
Puts a big hole in an hourly pay bump.
LOS is important. Better furlough benefits would be good too. AA is bottom of the barrel in this regard. United get 10 years pass travel for furloughees.
Get rid of that stupid NO Travel While sick thing too, who else does that?
We are all here, now lets try to make this a good place to work.
There is a lot of work to do here.

I didn't know that you couldn't travel while sick. So the company takes the right from you to see a doctor of your choice?


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