$4000 a month take home, including per diem, is possible after you are off probation and consolidated.

$48k a year?! I'm gonna be rich! Where do I sign up?! So excited to get started here!

Is how you hope folks respond. You -must- be joking/trolling, talking about "...is possible..." like that pay is something to be proud of. Good job you win here's your pay:

lol.

If you're actually serious, one word: sadness.

Original question was FIRST YEAR pay--while ON probation.

So, plan for four months at 1600/mo.

Then 50 hours/mo at first year pay for eight months.

Plus per diem.

That's your first pay, guaranteed. A new hire *might* do better, but that's a guess. The math above is a sure bet.

One more thing: Atlas appears to be in contraction mode. The company is simply NOT expanding the way it has for the last eight years.

Flights are being sub-contracted out and at one point management was heard to say that if they need to contract further to protect Amazon and DHL they will do it.

For many years, Atlas was a 500 pilot outfit. They tried to push it to 2000 in anticipation of Amazon but the operation hit critical mass right around the 1450 mark. It needs to contract in order to be manageable again. That will be done by attrition or furloughs.

Attrition (resignations, retirements, terminations) is working....for now.

\/ \/ \/ Well said and a factually accurate response \/ \/ \/

The sub charters right now are alarming, The company can't cover the current flying, and the exodus of pilots is not subsiding and indications are that its even accelerating.

So a great time to get hired in for seniority....

I only kid. I keep watching this bonfire grow bigger and I hope that it eventually gets put out. Y'all deserve better than this.

Has anyone taken the online assessment in recent months that has recommendations for study material? I received the assessment 10 days ago but had to put it off due to studying for recurrent. Now I'm focusing on getting this thing done. Any helpful recommendations would be greatly appreciated.

It was recommended to me that you buy some beer and get a couple buddies to come over. I haven't seen a gouge to date.

Are we sub chartering because of lack of pilots? Or lack of aircraft? It looks to me like all of our aircraft are flying about as much as they can. And we're adding another 767 every month. And a lot of our reserve pilots are sitting around. And we're consistently upgrading on the 747 and 767.

Oh wait, I forgot, the sky is falling. I forgot what forum I was on.

Sorry, everything is terrible. Carry on.

I wish they would pay us more, and treat us better. And I will support the union unconditionally towards that goal.

But the company is doing just fine, despite our rhetoric.

I'll second the "buddies and beer" method, that's what I did. If you all have some reference material going on different iPads and a calculator or two you'll knock it out of the park. Just make sure you have enough beer.

Sitting around? I have flown more as a reserve pilot the last 3 months than at any other time. I will end this month with somewhere around 73 hard hours plus!