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Swakid8 06-02-2021 10:17 AM


Originally Posted by Setspeed (Post 3244620)
I’ve seen it go pretty junior on the 767. HHN had some new hire FOs this year. Maybe time of the year sort of thing? Something something bid what you want..

Anyway, wasn’t there some sort of Amazon 737 options with us due by end of May? Anyone know or hear anything about that?

I am not sure about the 767

Lionhaart 06-03-2021 11:57 AM

Yeah the outbasing was given to a junior guy on the 76.

Ptyflyier 06-03-2021 02:11 PM


Originally Posted by zerozero (Post 3243927)
When you outbase, you're subsidizing the company's staffing problem with your free time.

If nobody would outbase the company would need to upgrade more Capts and hire more FOs.

Never saw it like that, great point

Setspeed 06-07-2021 08:00 AM

Happy Final Briefs Day.. not to be confused with the reply briefs which are the final briefs if the final briefs are not final and we need to reply

Roverruckus 06-07-2021 08:28 AM

I'm going to need some new briefs for sure.

Atlas Shrugged 06-07-2021 09:29 AM


Originally Posted by Setspeed (Post 3246617)
Happy Final Briefs Day.. not to be confused with the reply briefs which are the final briefs if the final briefs are not final and we need to reply


I started to laugh, and then I cried...

This is all so tiresome. After more than 5 years, management can't even stop themselves from rubbing salt in the wound.

Welcome to all newcomers, but understand you are joining a very flawed organization.

Nate2046 06-07-2021 01:18 PM


Originally Posted by Atlas Shrugged (Post 3246659)
Welcome to all newcomers, but understand you are joining a very flawed organization.

72 probationary pilots have quit in the first 5 months of the year. They definitely seem to get that message.

Nate2046 06-08-2021 09:07 AM

Company and IBT briefs are out. Company proposal is Kallita rate on the 74 and below K4 and all other US ACMIs on the 777 and 767. The rest of the open items are proposed at mostly current book. Mesa is mentioned 16 times in the company’s brief as a contract comparator. Mesa is apparently the bar they have set for our contract. Let that sink in.........

Lionhaart 06-08-2021 09:32 AM

Yikes lol...

​​​​​​In their defense....Mesa survives...I flew for an outfit that paid above average and guess where they are.

​​That being said Im no fan of separating pay rates depending on the airplane.

We'll see how this profit sharing bit compensates...and if they're willing to make the difference with more QOL.

Flydafe 06-08-2021 10:11 AM


Originally Posted by Nate2046 (Post 3247076)
Company and IBT briefs are out. Company proposal is Kallita rate on the 74 and below K4 and all other US ACMIs on the 777 and 767. The rest of the open items are proposed at mostly current book. Mesa is mentioned 16 times in the company’s brief as a contract comparator. Mesa is apparently the bar they have set for our contract. Let that sink in.........

that’s not fair to compare rates with Mesa. They just started cargo


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