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Elevation 10-01-2019 10:24 AM


Originally Posted by CaptDave (Post 2896255)
I haven’t been in CVG since OE. Mostly Tampa. No hub turns. Not anywhere close to min pay.

Bidding TPA reserve?

Falkor 10-01-2019 11:36 AM


Originally Posted by Globemaster2827 (Post 2894526)
I realize that it'd be unprecedented but my guess is that the company's plan is to attempt to get an arbitrator to arbitrate an entire contract at 9-12 months after the 45 day window was supposed to open from the integrated list being presented. I bet that gets tied up in the legal system for several years though... My best guess is 2 or 3 years for a new contract for Atlas and it won't be great when it's rammed down their throats...

This is spot on.

NoJoy 10-01-2019 12:44 PM


Originally Posted by Globemaster2827 (Post 2894526)
I realize that it'd be unprecedented but my guess is that the company's plan is to attempt to get an arbitrator to arbitrate an entire contract at 9-12 months after the 45 day window was supposed to open from the integrated list being presented. I bet that gets tied up in the legal system for several years though... My best guess is 2 or 3 years for a new contract for Atlas and it won't be great when it's rammed down their throats...


Ah, the integrated seniority list isn’t going to be presented anytime soon. What happens after the 45 days is anyone’s guess.
And I don’t think anyone knows if the “integrated seniority list” will be relative seniority OR date of hire. This will be very interesting on how it affects both the Atlas group and Southern side.
Then there’s the question on aircraft fences and for how long.

The Union will not release any integrated seniority list until they are ready or ordered by the courts.

Globemaster2827 10-01-2019 02:04 PM


Originally Posted by NoJoy (Post 2896576)
Ah, the integrated seniority list isn’t going to be presented anytime soon. What happens after the 45 days is anyone’s guess.
And I don’t think anyone knows if the “integrated seniority list” will be relative seniority OR date of hire. This will be very interesting on how it affects both the Atlas group and Southern side.
Then there’s the question on aircraft fences and for how long.

The Union will not release any integrated seniority list until they are ready or ordered by the courts.

I'm surprised yall haven't been sued again... Immediately. The courts have been "Good" to them but they've taken up too much time. So every time they spend a few years in court their retention issues get worse exponentially. It was an annoyance for them but I've got a feeling next year will be costing them more than a parked 777 or two...

Their real issue is that they're no where near the courts forcing a new "Kalitta Plus $1" contract that they want. That's going to take years for the courts to impose.

CaptDave 10-01-2019 09:47 PM


Originally Posted by Elevation (Post 2896474)
Bidding TPA reserve?

Just bidding 800 flying. Crediting around 71-85 hrs/mo. Trying to avoid taking any CVG lines, if I can, so those that live in base can bid them.

chanse895 10-04-2019 07:58 AM

Are they still hiring at Southern into the 777?


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tengssuuciurta 10-04-2019 08:04 AM


Originally Posted by chanse895 (Post 2898165)
Are they still hiring at Southern into the 777?


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Yep, we are.

chanse895 10-04-2019 08:07 AM


Originally Posted by tengssuuciurta (Post 2898169)
Yep, we are.



Is it still a home based contract?


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JonnyKnoxville 10-04-2019 08:09 AM


Originally Posted by chanse895 (Post 2898171)
Is it still a home based contract?


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No it isn't.

chanse895 10-04-2019 08:33 AM

When it comes to the 777 requirements, do they allow turboprop time to be counted towards the 1000 turbine time?


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