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Old 09-24-2019, 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Aussiee3pilot View Post
New hire on the 777 starting October 28. Currently at a regional and my choice was upgrade at my regional (SkyWest) or come to Southern Air. I have 3500TT and am actually really excited to start. Can anyone working here (not previously employed pilots) comment on current conditions, where the 777 goes, schedule and anything I should know. I would love to hear positive things but also not naive to the reality of the situation.
This is so bad it almost has to be a troll but if you're passing up a Regional upgrade to go to Southern on the 777 you are destroying your career.

Get 1000 hours PIC. Then go to Southern. You're looking at a 10 year upgrade on the 777 there. The 737 will be lucky to block 200 hours a year after you upgrade. You could probably bang out 1000 PIC in the next year and a half at a Regional I'm guessing.
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Old 09-24-2019, 10:29 AM
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You tell people not to come to Mesa. Then people tell you not to come to Southern. But yet here you are.
Maybe he already has his PIC....
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Old 09-24-2019, 11:00 AM
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Maybe he already has his PIC....
Few post back he said zero.
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Old 09-24-2019, 11:20 AM
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Few post back he said zero.
Then he made a mistake. Maybe he's trying to warn others... I went there with zero but I was just upgrading with a Reserve unit. It took me about 5 years getting it with the military. It took me 6.5 years to upgrade on the 747 and I started getting calls from UPS within a week of upgrading but I had 1000 PIC with the military that I built on my days off from Atlas while flying with my Reserve unit...

Bottom line.... It has been mentioned over and over on this thread and I can PROMISE you that 1000 PIC matters big time at FedEx and UPS...

DO NOT COME TO ATLAS/SOUTHERN WITHOUT 1000 TPIC.

DO NOT DO IT.
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Old 09-24-2019, 12:07 PM
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^^and a four year degree
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Old 09-24-2019, 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Aussiee3pilot View Post
New hire on the 777 starting October 28. Currently at a regional and my choice was upgrade at my regional (SkyWest) or come to Southern Air. I have 3500TT and am actually really excited to start. Can anyone working here (not previously employed pilots) comment on current conditions, where the 777 goes, schedule and anything I should know. I would love to hear positive things but also not naive to the reality of the situation.
As others have stated, for those reading this thread, stay at your regional and get that PIC time! And add checkairman or sim instructor time to your resume too if you can. Of course a four year is Very important to for UPS, FedEx, Delta ect.
When your at a job fair talking to recruiters, the PIC time (at the regional level) is important, but still may not be enough. Being an instructor at your current airline is so important, if you get the opportunity.
PIC 747, 777, 767,and 737 trumps CRj PIC time as well (for most people)

And lastly, if one really wants to fly internationally on a heavy, after the above resume builders are met, get on with Atlas, not Southern! Fly the 747 or 767 while going to job fairs, updating your online apps, while trying to interview for your “dream job”
Atlas and Southern are NOT the same! And it could be a year or two or longer before seniority lists are merged. And we still don’t know about what fences will be in place and for how long.
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Old 09-24-2019, 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Aussiee3pilot View Post
New hire on the 777 starting October 28. Currently at a regional and my choice was upgrade at my regional (SkyWest) or come to Southern Air. I have 3500TT and am actually really excited to start. Can anyone working here (not previously employed pilots) comment on current conditions, where the 777 goes, schedule and anything I should know. I would love to hear positive things but also not naive to the reality of the situation.
Looking at the CVG F/O bid lines you'll see a lot of CVG-BAH-HKG-ANC-CVG. Do that twice in 17 days. Some LAX, ICN, DWC and LEJ thrown in. That's about it.
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Old 09-24-2019, 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Riverside View Post
You tell people not to come to Mesa. Then people tell you not to come to Southern. But yet here you are.
I'm not at either and I would do your research. Chances are if you have 1500 hours and an ATP there are many airlines better than Mesa, southern or any ACMI. Go somewhere that respects pilots and doesn't have a ton of labor issues.
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Old 09-24-2019, 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by NoJoy View Post
And lastly, if one really wants to fly internationally on a heavy, after the above resume builders are met, get on with Kalitta, Omni, or even ATI, not Southern OR Atlas.
FIFY. I mean honestly.
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^^and a four year degree
Absolutely. This guy knows what he's talking about...
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