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Old 03-14-2019, 02:03 AM
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Originally Posted by boeingdvr View Post
Spacial Disorientation, followed by an aburt flight control input, thus exaggerated spacial disorientation, panic, locked on controls, VMC, pulling up, not enough time.
No, please stop
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Originally Posted by boeingdvr View Post
Spacial Disorientation, followed by an aburt flight control input, thus exaggerated spacial disorientation, panic, locked on controls, VMC, pulling up, not enough time.
You nailed it. It was VMC.
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Except with under-wing mounted engines if you go to max thrust you’re making it harder to break the stall.....you’ve gotta unload the wing first by getting the nose down (perhaps even reducing thrust to aid in getting the nose down)....once you get the nose down then you can add thrust.


Adding power on a 767 will cause a pitch up tendency


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Old 03-14-2019, 06:02 AM
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I stand by my inadvertently pushed GA with the flaps at 1 followed by an over correction that couldn't be recovered from.


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Old 03-14-2019, 06:18 AM
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Old 03-14-2019, 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted by tunes View Post
Adding power on a 767 will cause a pitch up tendency


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And many other transport category aircraft, probably the large majority of them in the US. Excluding CRJ, mad-dogs, and commuter props.
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Old 03-14-2019, 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by ICUROOK View Post
Says the ambulance chaser who speculated a pilot committed suicide almost a week ago and has 8 total posts, all in this thread. hmmmmmm
I’ve been on the 767 for 10 years and have somehow managed to keep my interests somewhere other than this forum, so I apologize for the lack of posts. I suppose having thousands of ignorant posts makes you more credible. Since I’ve only made 8 posts though it should be fairly easily for you to tell me exactly which one I speculated on any cause of this accident
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Old 03-14-2019, 06:36 AM
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Originally Posted by tunes View Post
I stand by my inadvertently pushed GA with the flaps at 1 followed by an over correction that couldn't be recovered from.


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You know that the thrust moves up at a medium pace it doesn't go to max thrust immediately and also you can disengage the auto throttles just as easy with a push of a button located right next to TOGA.
There is no way they sat there and watch the thrust go all the way to max then did what they did.
This is as bad as the theory of spatial disorientation. Really? Both guys got it at the same time and neither could figure it out? Jesus
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Old 03-14-2019, 06:54 AM
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Originally Posted by hoover View Post
You know that the thrust moves up at a medium pace it doesn't go to max thrust immediately and also you can disengage the auto throttles just as easy with a push of a button located right next to TOGA.
There is no way they sat there and watch the thrust go all the way to max then did what they did.
This is as bad as the theory of spatial disorientation. Really? Both guys got it at the same time and neither could figure it out?
Jesus
Just as I don’t believe much of the speculation on this site I wouldn’t dismiss it all out of hand either . In my 50 years of flying I have watched guys do some pretty out of caricature stuff . Both in the sim and IOE line stuff . Anything is possible.
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Old 03-14-2019, 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by hoover View Post
You know that the thrust moves up at a medium pace it doesn't go to max thrust immediately and also you can disengage the auto throttles just as easy with a push of a button located right next to TOGA.

There is no way they sat there and watch the thrust go all the way to max then did what they did.

This is as bad as the theory of spatial disorientation. Really? Both guys got it at the same time and neither could figure it out? Jesus


Let's see how well your post ages when the final report is out. For starters there is no such thing as toga on the airplane. There is only GA. It commands a 2k ft/min climb. If what I'm hearing of them trying to expedite a descent with the flaps at 1 it makes perfect sense.


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