This is the best summary of “What it’s like at Atlas” for me. I read all the time on here about min rest and such but never in a perspective like this. NO THANK YOU!


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Man, if your doing 14-15 hour flight 10 hour rest then Repeat for 17 days you must be making bank. That’s over 230 hours of credit. Is that even legal?

Plus if ur doing 30 hr round trip that should be one trip a week unless you're regulated under a different set of rules...

Hmmmmm I think perhaps the poster either lies a lot or is on drugs. Rest rules would never permit that.

Didn’t say you have to be operating the flight. You can always be riding the Lindsay Express around the world.

It is fascinating that people come here to find out information, which they are getting from actual Atlas pilots, and then think we are lying to them.

What rest rules were violated for a 4 man crew? You can do a lot of fling when paired this way. But wait, don't worry, as soon as you get close to breaking guarantee, the Lindsay optimizer will make you international reserve, and you can kiss that 90 hour paycheck goodbye!

How many of you have flown east and west across the dateline with 12-16 hours of rest 5 or 6 times in just a few weeks? We do this at Atlas routinely.

If you want to come to Atlas, then welcome aboard. Just don't say we didn't warn you. A contract could still be several years away!

Some of us like it here, myself included, but don't delude yourself.

Don't forget to factor in the majority of your time as a 747 FO will be as a relief pilot or galley wench. You'll be lucky to get one, maybe two takeoffs/landings per month.

So true!

Atlas is not a beginners airline. Your flying skills will not get better here or at any long haul outfit for that matter. You have to have reached a point in your flying career where you can fly "good enough" to take care of business when things go wrong and for your simulator check rides. This is the nature of this type of flying.

The days of multiple destinations and lots of hand flying are over when you come here. That is not a bad thing if you are prepared for it, but you will be a captain here one day, and you better have your act together.

This would be one of the best jobs in aviation if we only had a fair contract.

Think about this. You just flew a 10 hour leg from PAE to NGO which is about a 13 hour duty day give or take. Then, while enroute, you get a schedule change that says you will commercial from NGO to PVG 2.5 hours after arrival. Yes, you now have an almost 20 hour duty day that is legal and contractual. But don't worry, at least you are in business class on China Eastern!

AMEN- Thanks man.

I had a day recently. Operate PSM-HMM. at this point my duty day is around 11 hours. But....
Limo- HNN to Frankfurt ( not done yet )
Commercial to Stockholm

An easy 11 hour day turned into a 21 hour duty ( all legal )

Followed by min rest back to BWI.

Many many years ago, one could see multi day layovers, decent flying.

We are still doing the same flying, unfortunately we are so incredibly thin with crews, and last minute fatigue and sick calls, the days of spending 3 days in Hawaii or Hong Kong are long gone.

Min rest, an back to work.