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Old 09-10-2021, 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by RyeMex View Post
Based on a quick reading so far, it is much worse than just terrible pay rates.
Do you have link to the actual contract? Rates are just one thing... Retirement was really a bigger deal IMHO...
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Old 09-10-2021, 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Swakid8 View Post
We did get a raise and mmg increased to 64/hr. The 747 almost matched Kalitta.

Looks like this will be a contract improved by LOAs
Does anyone else remember when Carlson paraded around the MIATC promising that there was no way that the next CBA would be less than K4?
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Originally Posted by Globemaster2827 View Post
Do you have link to the actual contract? Rates are just one thing... Retirement was really a bigger deal IMHO...
Retirement is almost exactly what the company wanted. 60% match on contributions up to 10% of gross pay. Which represents a whopping increase of 1% more going into our retirement.

That match increases to 65%, 70%, 75%, and 80% over the longevity of the CBA.
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Old 09-10-2021, 01:39 PM
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What does DOS, DOS+1, DOS+2 even mean? Where are we at on that? It is confusing.
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Old 09-10-2021, 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by RyeMex View Post
Does anyone else remember when Carlson paraded around the MIATC promising that there was no way that the next CBA would be less than K4?
Lol... I heard Dietrich say that and figured that'd mean it'd be K4 rates +$1... In all honesty I doubt Carlson really knew what he was talking about. The real villain was always Dietrich.

In all honesty those rates will attract new guys, probably keep the Captains around, won't be a big increase in costs considering that the last increase was 10 years ago, and now he'll have 10 years at these rates. IF what you're saying is true - that the rest of it is mostly current book - then this CBA will accomplish every goal management had.
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Originally Posted by SpeedChecks360 View Post
What does DOS, DOS+1, DOS+2 even mean? Where are we at on that? It is confusing.
Date-of-signing, plus 1 year, plus 2 years etc
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Originally Posted by RyeMex View Post
Retirement is almost exactly what the company wanted. 60% match on contributions up to 10% of gross pay. Which represents a whopping increase of 1% more going into our retirement.

That match increases to 65%, 70%, 75%, and 80% over the longevity of the CBA.
Ok... So you did get 3% extra on retirement. That's well short of what you deserve but also more than I figured he'd give you. Given the circumstances - an arbitrated contract - that's a small victory.

The problem with that is gonna be the match. You'll have Captains that max out their annual contributions and will have to pay taxes on the money twice to get the match. Once when they put the money in and once when they take it out. It really needs to be a DC.
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Originally Posted by Globemaster2827 View Post
Lol... I heard Dietrich say that and figured that'd mean it'd be K4 rates +$1...
My point is that this should tell you everything you need to know about this group. They wouldn't even keep their promise of "not less than Kalitta".
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Any change to first year monthly guarantee, or just 2nd year and on to 64 hours?
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Originally Posted by Globemaster2827 View Post
Ok... So you did get 3% extra on retirement. That's well short of what you deserve but also more than I figured he'd give you. Given the circumstances - an arbitrated contract - that's a small victory.

The problem with that is gonna be the match. You'll have Captains that max out their annual contributions and will have to pay taxes on the money twice to get the match. Once when they put the money in and once when they take it out. It really needs to be a DC.
It's an insult. And it should be viewed as nothing less.
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