Atlas 767s To ABX
#21
The FedEx union will not strike and they won't get the Delta pay. FedEx is in transition, Mr. Smith is stepped back and the new team is moving forward. FedEx is parking the MDs and Airbuses but are getting more 767s and 777s. The company is looking at the 350 and 777X. The board also approved another 40 billion dollars for more aircraft over what has already been approved. FedEx is here to stay and will be more efficient and the bonuses will be big again this year..
I was at Polar and walked the line during our ill fated strike and there when Atlas bought us out. To say the least it was not a pretty transition and JB definitely was not our favorite but I have to admit since those days Atlas has made great strides and I hope it stays that way. No one was furloughed and all my friends still get a pay check. Now you are Apollo and having been through the TWA wars that left me on the street I sincerely hope your transition is better than Ichan's destroying of TWA. AS for the UPS comment, there are two areas in corrosion corner and UPS did not park next to us, at least they didn't 17 years ago. So guys and gals,hang in there and I am sure Atlas will prosper but not as well as FedEx.
I was at Polar and walked the line during our ill fated strike and there when Atlas bought us out. To say the least it was not a pretty transition and JB definitely was not our favorite but I have to admit since those days Atlas has made great strides and I hope it stays that way. No one was furloughed and all my friends still get a pay check. Now you are Apollo and having been through the TWA wars that left me on the street I sincerely hope your transition is better than Ichan's destroying of TWA. AS for the UPS comment, there are two areas in corrosion corner and UPS did not park next to us, at least they didn't 17 years ago. So guys and gals,hang in there and I am sure Atlas will prosper but not as well as FedEx.
*What are your thoughts regarding such a delayed hiring strategy perhaps into 2024 or even 2025 as mentioned on the Purple forums? Not interested until one needs to be, just curious and others may need to know... Hopeful Apollo makes good moves as nothing fits better hands down.
#22
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jun 2006
Position: Left, right & center
Posts: 787
Amazon absolutely despises ABX after what they did with their sickout early on in the Prime Air days. They hardly do any Amazon flying and last time I was in PHX the rumor was ABX was going to lose all of their Amazon flying completely by the summer. ATI would be the most likely carrier to take on the Atlas and ABX flying but with almost a 20% of our pilot population gone just in the first 4 months of this year alone, I have no idea how we could staff 17 more airplanes.
As for "losing" all Amazon flying, it's not so much that as the deal Amazon made with Hawaiian to replace older, smaller aircraft (read: 767-200s) with A330s. Two of them have already left the certificate. Two more of the six ABX had are expected to go in the third quarter. ATI also flies -200s, so you can expect they will be affected as well.
As for 17 more 767s to ABX, that is your typical game of telephone where one thing becomes another the farther it gets from the source. What we know is that there are 17 767s currently being flown by Atlas that are up for bid. Who gets them remains to be seen.
#23
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jun 2006
Position: Frm. DHLAirways. Blue & White Boeing's Now. YEA!!
Posts: 610
But it will be a one for one replacement with three -300’s and maybe a fourth. for this year at least.
Eventually, we’re told, all but two -200’s will be gone and none will be on contract to AMZ.
#24
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2016
Posts: 698
And it’s also happening right now at ATI. We’ve parked one -200 this month and more -200’s to follow.
But it will be a one for one replacement with three -300’s and maybe a fourth. for this year at least.
Eventually, we’re told, all but two -200’s will be gone and none will be on contract to AMZ.
But it will be a one for one replacement with three -300’s and maybe a fourth. for this year at least.
Eventually, we’re told, all but two -200’s will be gone and none will be on contract to AMZ.
AMZ is sticking with its Atlas for the foreseeable future.
#25
Amazon absolutely despises ABX after what they did with their sickout early on in the Prime Air days. They hardly do any Amazon flying and last time I was in PHX the rumor was ABX was going to lose all of their Amazon flying completely by the summer. ATI would be the most likely carrier to take on the Atlas and ABX flying but with almost a 20% of our pilot population gone just in the first 4 months of this year alone, I have no idea how we could staff 17 more airplanes.
#26
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2010
Posts: 3,099
The FedEx union will not strike and they won't get the Delta pay. FedEx is in transition, Mr. Smith is stepped back and the new team is moving forward. FedEx is parking the MDs and Airbuses but are getting more 767s and 777s. The company is looking at the 350 and 777X. The board also approved another 40 billion dollars for more aircraft over what has already been approved.
#27
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2011
Position: A320 FO
Posts: 848
Anytime you think that a Company like Amazon is making decisions based on emotion (despises ABX pilots) verses what does using ABX for lift do to the companies bottom line, you have lost most of the perspective. If ABX gives Amazon a superior product, either through greater efficiencies or a flat out lower price, (think Kalitta Charters 737), they will get the lift. The only consideration that a work stoppage would be given would be to decide if it was going to happen again and if it did happen again would it make the deal worse for the bottom line than say giving aircraft to Mesa.
#28
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2021
Posts: 101
As a condition of an Amazon contract, AMZ wants a seat on your board of directors and wants to see all of your financials. Since all Kalitta companies are privately owned, they initially were not interest in those options to attain AMZ flying...and yes they have been approached.
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post