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Old 07-03-2023 | 05:10 PM
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So without much fanfare the Amazon contract was extended for 3 years only to match the 10 drylease contract of the 76 airframes.
Are these aircraft still being upgraded or just run out of cycles?
My understanding the military doesn’t like the 76 anymore and neither do the sports teams/ VIP charters.
So if you get hired now on the 76 you’ll be finished with OE by Dec and possibly only have till May 2026 before displacement to another type. That would be well before what the current upgrade time runs.
Most Junior Capt is 02/18 hire date.
Too soon to tell?
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Old 07-04-2023 | 01:06 AM
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Originally Posted by TiredSoul
So without much fanfare the Amazon contract was extended for 3 years only to match the 10 drylease contract of the 76 airframes.
Are these aircraft still being upgraded or just run out of cycles?
My understanding the military doesn’t like the 76 anymore and neither do the sports teams/ VIP charters.
So if you get hired now on the 76 you’ll be finished with OE by Dec and possibly only have till May 2026 before displacement to another type. That would be well before what the current upgrade time runs.
Most Junior Capt is 02/18 hire date.
Too soon to tell?
Too soon to tell.

LDS Upgrades are still ongoing, should be complete early next year. We were told one of the pax birds was going in to a freighter conversion.

Either we have more freighters with better displays in the future, or they are being made more marketable for Titan. I am going to enjoy the ride while it lasts and be happy about four plus years seniority of bumping rights if needed.
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Old 07-04-2023 | 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by TiredSoul
So without much fanfare the Amazon contract was extended for 3 years only to match the 10 drylease contract of the 76 airframes.
Are these aircraft still being upgraded or just run out of cycles?
My understanding the military doesn’t like the 76 anymore and neither do the sports teams/ VIP charters.
So if you get hired now on the 76 you’ll be finished with OE by Dec and possibly only have till May 2026 before displacement to another type. That would be well before what the current upgrade time runs.
Most Junior Capt is 02/18 hire date.
Too soon to tell?
The 767 future isn't bleak at least for the next two years. The military isn't unhappy with the 767 since they are using them at Omni and others. Still 777 passenger planes would be good to have, and tje extra range, rest facilities, etc. Would make AMC Pacific work a lot easier to support. If things change we get bumped into another Boeing plane. For now this is the fleet with good enough pay and pretty good QOL.

Beyond two years from now, anything could happen.
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Old 07-04-2023 | 06:02 PM
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Yogi Berra stated: “It is difficult to make predictions, especially about the future."
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Old 07-06-2023 | 03:44 AM
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Speaking of the 76, are they mostly Amazon now or are there still decent international trips?
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Old 07-06-2023 | 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by astray
Speaking of the 76, are they mostly Amazon now or are there still decent international trips?
Mixed
CVG: Almost entirely domestic Amazon
JFK: Mostly AMC to Europe, some Middle East
ONT: Most of the Hawaii flying now
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Old 07-10-2023 | 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by ACMIguy
Mixed
CVG: Almost entirely domestic Amazon
JFK: Mostly AMC to Europe, some Middle East
ONT: Most of the Hawaii flying now
Thanks. Anything for PDX flying?
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Old 07-10-2023 | 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by astray
Thanks. Anything for PDX flying?
I am PDX based, it is super junior. Nearly all Amazon flying on the primary lines, although we recently have had some Captain pax trips and CA / FO reserve lines in SEA, presumably for pax trips.
The top two FOs are Sim instructors, everyone else is a 2022 hire. Most of the FO list is actually still in training, although for the September bid I would expect maybe three more to come off of OE and join the bid. That means more bidding choices and hopefully variety. Usually a few Secondary lines, and I did get a couple of European and Japan trips this past winter on those lines. But four months of min guarantee and I was eager to escape to higher credit lines.

Primary lines have mostly been RFD turns, super easy, bankers hours. CVG turns are a bit tough, it has been about a 28 hour layover in CVG. Amazon seems to have changed their times up recently, so I am expecting to be surprised on the 15th.
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Old 07-17-2023 | 07:11 PM
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I bet we will get the tuna cans back…

and we’re gonna like it! :/
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Old 07-18-2023 | 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Lionhaart
I bet we will get the tuna cans back…

and we’re gonna like it! :/
More flying, even if it's hub-turns is good for us. Good for labor too, since it takes pilots to move those planes.
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