Is atlas even hiring?

I would highly not recommend

the 74 is great, some of the hard rest locations are fun, but after a year the dumpster pay and QOL catches up.

Upgrade time, seniority, commute on your DAYS OFF, and at 45, you’re nuts brotha

Good thing he’s ‘merican huh. Otherwise you’d really be negative. 😂

It’s good to get both sides. However MELedMEL could be given a pot of gold and he’d complain it was too heavy.

As an Atlas guy, I'd say this is sort of a lateral move. A year in and you'll be equally frustrated. It's just the flavor of that frustration that will change. Negotiations are just starting now, so If expect a pay increase no earlier than 2029/30, given how long negotiations typically take. We are owned by private equity and are for sale.

This being said I like my work and the people I work with. So if this is what you want to do, great. I'd just recommend you move towards something you like rather than away from things you don't like, if that makes sense.

Seting aside the fact that Atlas isn't expected to open hiring until later this year, and also that we don't sit sorts, aside from the occasional Atlas appreciation lines for UPS and FedEx during peak... and to fill-in for the MD-11; no, you aren't crazy.

Some people like cargo, some like the wide variety offered by fractionals, some live in Atlanta or Denver or Dallas, or Seattle and are crazy to no at least try for a Big 5 career. There is more to life than an over-flowing bank account, and at the end of the day if you aren't happy going in to work, then you need to find a new path.

Apply when the window opens, then if offered a position you can make a choice. Until then, keep researching the company to make sure you choose the best option when and if the opportunity presents itself.

With atlas pay you ain’t going to have the gold and you’ll probably have to put the pot on your credit card lol

Though atlas was a great experience, it was probably the worst QOL I have had in my career

A lot of this is relative. It depends on the person, depends on the company they previously worked for, depends on the company they’ve moved onto when they’re trying to compare jobs, etc. You ask 50 different pilots their experiences about Atlas or any 121 job for that matter, you’re likely gonna get 50 different answers. Sure there’s gonna be some similar answers with some, and some slight variations on experiences, but you will still get 50 different takes on it. Some people stay at the regionals forever (aka lifers). I honestly have no idea how they do it, as I couldn’t comprehend working for a regional for more than about 8-10 years as it would just wear on me like a ragged dog. But I’m sure many of them have their reasons for staying and not going anywhere else. Oftentimes when I get to talking to people in these situations, I go “thats a legit reason.” Then I put myself in there shoes and think I don’t know if I would do anything different if I were them. Sometimes “life happens.” If it floats their boat…..

Likewise some people may really, really like the gateway travel that atlas offers and prefer to commute only twice a month vs non revving 7-9 times in a month at a regional/major and then feeling like death at the end of each 4 day, slogging it out through terminals and dealing with thousands of pax each time. It gets overstimulating for a lot. Some people may just like flying that doesn’t involve the crowds. Can’t blame them as I work for a pax carrier. Dealing with not only pax, but gate agents and flight attendants after 3-4 days, hell, even for the first couple of days, can wear you down. Each trip can make you feel like you’ve aged a little bit. Some companies and some hubs/airports are worse than others.

Also some of the happiest people I know don’t make ‘top pay’ in their fields. Many are perfectly ok making less but doing something more fulfilling.
It’s not all about the money hoss. Pipe down.

I know several former military pilots that served a good career in the military, are great people, but have told me flat out they have no desire to go to the airlines. They are done with being gone and don’t want to be gone anymore as they were probably gone a lot during their time in the service. Many of their reasons were similar to what I just stated. Not everyone looks at the profession and is enamored by the high pay that it can provide.

It seems like you’re at a major now, from what I can gather. You probably complain about stuff nonstop at ur shop, but then come on here and make it look like it’s all sunshine and rainbows. No?

Soon about to end.

I am at a major. Money isn't really a factor. As long as I an keep it above 150ish a year we have more than enough for our lifestyle. Early retirement is already factored in.

I am at a major. I don't really complain at all. Lol. Comes from miltary days. Just go to work and don't complain. If you don't like something, then change it. If it can't be chnaged, then leave. Now point in being negative. I have it good. I probably make more than most senior captains when you figure by per hour worked,noted absolute pay. Buy that requires some hustle and can backfire into a bad month.

Basically, I know that the grass is not always greener. I have flown passenger and cargo. ACMI and major. I miss cargo. And the biggest downside that I see is the days per month worked and living in base. I currently live 2 hours from base and can work 5-7 days in a month if I want. Or work 20+ if I want to buy a toy.
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Is that an already signed agreement between the company and union or is that just something you’re hoping for in negotiations?

It's my understanding that it's uncouth to discuss CBA negotiations in public. But I've never worked at a union shop so idk.