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HPIC 02-27-2026 04:16 PM


Originally Posted by SnarfSnarf (Post 4007518)
It's my understanding that it's uncouth to discuss CBA negotiations in public. But I've never worked at a union shop so idk.

If it’s something that’s already agreed to and signed it’s not part of negotiations. If it’s just an ask during negotiations that he’s referencing then it’s not exactly negotiating in public. I know how his union works…I was a member for 7 years.

dera 02-27-2026 05:33 PM


Originally Posted by HPIC (Post 4007523)
If it’s something that’s already agreed to and signed it’s not part of negotiations. If it’s just an ask during negotiations that he’s referencing then it’s not exactly negotiating in public. I know how his union works…I was a member for 7 years.

Commuter Policy MOU, it's on the Union website.

MELedMel 02-27-2026 06:28 PM


Originally Posted by dera;[url=tel:4007543
4007543[/url]]Commuter Policy MOU, it's on the Union website.

so now you commmute on your first work day as you should?

If that’s the case just need to increase pay like 30% or so and fix the upgrade time issue

dera 02-27-2026 07:37 PM


Originally Posted by MELedMel (Post 4007562)
so now you commmute on your first work day as you should?

If that’s the case just need to increase pay like 30% or so and fix the upgrade time issue

Read the MOU. Good stuff in there.



HPIC 02-27-2026 08:52 PM


Originally Posted by dera (Post 4007543)
Commuter Policy MOU, it's on the Union website.

Good to hear. I’m glad you guys are getting better work rules. I left several years ago after 7 years there and a 767CA at about 30% overall seniority. I don’t have access to any of the union or company data anymore.

I left as a result of the last contract that was crammed down our throats by the arbitrator. The pay was bad enough…the work rules sucked…but the 2% DC was the final kick in the teeth I needed to bail. I hear you guys are up around 12-14% DC now. I’m happy for you. There’s still a lot to fix there…but I guess that can be said with any airline contract.

dera 02-27-2026 09:33 PM


Originally Posted by HPIC (Post 4007588)
Good to hear. I’m glad you guys are getting better work rules. I left several years ago after 7 years there and a 767CA at about 30% overall seniority. I don’t have access to any of the union or company data anymore.

I left as a result of the last contract that was crammed down our throats by the arbitrator. The pay was bad enough…the work rules sucked…but the 2% DC was the final kick in the teeth I needed to bail. I hear you guys are up around 12-14% DC now. I’m happy for you. There’s still a lot to fix there…but I guess that can be said with any airline contract.

The commuter policy is industry leading. Not just ACMI, I'd take it over any other airline commuter policy there is.

16% DC started this January.

Lot needs to be done. But the trend vector generally points in the right direction.

Clue32 02-28-2026 12:26 AM


Originally Posted by dera (Post 4007572)
Read the MOU. Good stuff in there.

Being able to report up to 3 hours from first report will be a game changer for a lot of folks.

Doesn't equate to other ACMI home base policies, be we also don't owe 17 days a month. We are owed at least 13 off. Huge difference, unless folks are just used to bidding 17 day lines.

I can't complain too much about our schedules or commute. Some things still need work, and that was in my survey. I am on a primary line, Day 2 of a 6 day pattern that started off with 3 DHs to an airport not too far down the road from my from my front door... and I am standing in my kitchen making pancakes for my kids. Tough way to earn a paycheck.

MELedMel 02-28-2026 07:48 AM


Originally Posted by dera;[url=tel:4007593
4007593]The commuter policy is industry leading. Not just ACMI, I'd take it over any other airline commuter policy there is.

16% DC started this January.

Lot needs to be done. But the trend vector generally points in the right direction.

Industry as in ACMI?

All the home based charter folks have commuted on days on since forever

It’s good they are heading in a more acceptable direction however

dera 02-28-2026 01:22 PM


Originally Posted by MELedMel (Post 4007685)
Industry as in ACMI?

All the home based charter folks have commuted on days on since forever

It’s good they are heading in a more acceptable direction however

No, industry as in industry when talking about based airlines. I'll take this over any legacy policy. Home basing is comparing apples to oranges. For commuting, this is the gold standard.

MELedMel 02-28-2026 06:02 PM


Originally Posted by dera;[url=tel:4007796
4007796]No, industry as in industry when talking about based airlines. I'll take this over any legacy policy. Home basing is comparing apples to oranges. For commuting, this is the gold standard.


ahh so for 121 fair enough

Lots of 135s with commute on day on and also better pay than Atlas.

But if you just want to be 121 and home based, never mind the income or days off, I agree atlas is the best


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