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sandstorm 03-24-2011 12:00 PM


Originally Posted by dojetdriver (Post 969811)
1) They'll more than likely ask on the phone screen

2) Along with the tech test, you submit another question form that contains some basic background questions on it. One of them is if you have any failed checkride/PC's in the last 5 years.

Yep. Talked about it during the phone screen. She did mention that it may be a problem and that she would have to talk to the CP?, but still assigned me the test anyway. I didnt think it would be a big deal.

dojetdriver 03-24-2011 12:02 PM


Originally Posted by sandstorm (Post 969831)
Yep. Talked about it during the phone screen. She did mention that it may be a problem and that she would have to talk to the CP?, but still assigned me the test anyway. I didnt think it would be a big deal.


Sorry to hear that man :(

needtofly 03-24-2011 03:24 PM

Sooooo.... if you haven't failed any in the past five years should one answer "no" on the phone screen. If at the interview they have you fill out a questionaire and one question is "have you failed a checkride in the past five years" is one safe to assume you can answer the same "no" over the phone??:rolleyes:

clipperskipper 03-24-2011 04:06 PM


Originally Posted by needtofly (Post 969998)
Sooooo.... if you haven't failed any in the past five years should one answer "no" on the phone screen. If at the interview they have you fill out a questionaire and one question is "have you failed a checkride in the past five years" is one safe to assume you can answer the same "no" over the phone??:rolleyes:

Safe to say no. The telephone interview seems to follow a fairly standard format, how many flight hours in past 12 months, have you ever failed a check ride? In Atlas' case, they placed a time limit on it.

needtofly 03-24-2011 04:20 PM

Safe to say "no" that is good to know. Thanks

dojetdriver 03-24-2011 04:26 PM


Originally Posted by needtofly (Post 969998)
Sooooo.... if you haven't failed any in the past five years should one answer "no" on the phone screen.

My phone screen, it was asked "have you ever failed a checkride?"


Originally Posted by needtofly (Post 969998)
If at the interview they have you fill out a questionaire and one question is "have you failed a checkride in the past five years" is one safe to assume you can answer the same "no" over the phone??:rolleyes:

You won't fill it out at the interview, you'll fill it out before they even call. That's where it's SPECIFICALLY asked about the last 5 years.

I failed the oral portion of my initial CFI 12 years ago, and answered "YES" on the phone screen. On the NHPS form I answered "NO" to the question about any failures in the last 5 years, because the CFI is the only failure I have.

The CFI failure didn't even come up in my interview.

just me 03-24-2011 05:36 PM

Quite honestly, I would not get too hung up about the failures or the 5-year marker. I failed a checkride at the 4.5 year marker (initial type) and still made it into the pool.

I believe Atlas has their system pretty well dialed in. (though some really good guys seem to get lost in that shuffle...)

For them it is all about points. Bad things get you fewer points and good things make up for that in points. If you have a failure that would be bad points. If you have a good explanation and let them know how you learned from it and how it made you more of the professional you are today that might get you some bonus points.
Or, there are just other real great things about you they like and that makes up for a few lacking points here or there.

Either way - don't let it stop you from applying (here or anywhere else). BUT, be honest, don't lie and have a very good explanation as to the why, how and stuff. DO NOT blame anyone besides yourself for the failure. No matter what the real story is - it just does not sound right.

And don't try to trick them with the time. Be honest, give them dates and let them decide. They will find out via PRIA anyway...


Enough of that! Good luck to all of you (us)...

DC8DRIVER 03-24-2011 05:54 PM


Originally Posted by BARRELL RIDER (Post 969405)
To everyone who interviewed with me on Tuesday, it was an honor. I am so impressed with Atlas and hope that we will all meet again soon and join the team.

Likewise. And the rendezvous sounds good, Barrell Rider.

Interesting and varied group. Pilots ranged from an EMS chopper pilot (also lots of 727 time) a C5 pilot, a PC-12 pilot, commuter pilots, furloughed and active pilots, both genders, young, old. Pretty much all over the place.

Information here and elsewhere is all good. Nothing really new about the process or questions. It appears that they are looking for genuinely good, nice people who are solid pilots with relatively clean records who REALLY want to work there.

My best advice is to do your homework. Study up on the place if you really want to work there. If you don't REALLY REALLY want the job with them, they will find out and wash you out to avoid wasting their time (and money) and yours.

During the intro, they quoted to us that they had: "4000 resumes, 1500 reviewed, 275 interviewed, and 85 new hires" in the "past year"... That's something like 1 hired for every 3.2 interviewed. Sobering way to start an interview day.

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EllisCoastal 03-25-2011 12:20 AM


Originally Posted by terryhflyer (Post 969611)
What kind of health insurance does Atlas provide and what do you guys think about it? What would be the cost for a family? I believe I read on here you have to wait 90 days to get it. I guess you have to get COBRA so you don't fall into the pre-existing clause. If you don't want it posted a pm would be appreciated. Thanks.

The 90 day wait is accurate. The 90 day clock starts on day one of training, not after your checkride or any other event. I don't recall how much it is for a family, but for a single person I pay around $75 a month plus some for dental.

With regards to COBRA. COBRA for me was outrageously expensive. I have had a lapse in insurance because of a job transition twice now, and the best thing for me was temporary insurance from a normal health insurance provider. COBRA wanted $350 a month just for me and coverage for 90 days put me over $1000! I went to ehealthinsurance.com and ended up paying around $100 a month. Hope this helps.

Getter 03-25-2011 05:32 PM

I think its 90 days from date of hire then starts on the 1st day of the following month. I think it took me 115 days. Health Insurance wise.... best to get a class date at the end of the month.


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