Take home pay depends on your situation. Federal tax bracket, state income tax, insurance selections and cost, etc...

Until completing training(4 months or until OE is finished, whichever comes first) it's training pay. After that, min guarantee is about 4,000 a month gross. Don't count on anything more. It will most likely be 50% more than that, but you can't count on anything but min guarantee.

Does anyone know when the next job fair that Atlas will be attending is?

Forgot to add this,

7100 TT
5075 SIC
1915 PIC
757/767 PIC Type

Code Red,

I interviewed last week also; my resume and times are almost identical to yours, and I also got the "No thanks, but good luck in your aviation career"...I thought the interview went great, even though I spent half the HR portion trying to explain why I wouldn't want to go to XYZ legacy if they called me tomorrow. I have a four-year degree from a very competitive school and they even specifically pointed out that is very valuable elsewhere. I knew I would get those questions, and I had legitimate, honest answers that I thought were convincing... but I guess not.

It's very frustrating...too good for Atlas, not good enough for the legacies, so what next? I'm just going to keep working hard for my current employer and wait for the next opportunity! The interview experience was, at least, very valuable.

I want to be optimistic that contracts and working conditions can only get better at any airline that still wants to be in business five years from now, but none of the line pilots I've talked to at Atlas share that optimism...so this may definitely be a blessing in disguise.

I really did want to work at Atlas and was prepared to do my due diligence to see if they really meant what they said when they talked about wanting Atlas to become a "last stop" where people would want to make a career. I guess that mentality is still being hatched and isn't shared by everyone there yet...If you want to be a first-tier airline, then why turn down young, motivated, first-tier candidates who want to help make that happen?

Oh well...back to work!

Why don't you think you're good enough for the legacies? If you have identical quals to those above you should get called soon. Just a game of math. FWIW i've lost respect for whom Delta Air Lines considers "tier one candidate." You already are more qualled than some of them. I've seen a lot of tier 1's have zero PIC but have education out the ying yang. MBA's etc. I dunno.

I've spoken with several whom all say the company is just bringing people in the door to show the union there is no shortage. If they "think" your qualified for another carrier, its a formality and you get a no email.

I did an ECIC prep and felt very polished. Of the few questions I was asked, I felt I did extremely well. If I had done poorly I would own up to it but this one has me scratching my head.

For the first time in my career I never thought everything I worked hard to achieve would be held against me. I can't tell you how many times I was asked if I had a failed check ride, as if they thought I was not being truthful.

I'll keep sending my resume, maybe I'll get another interview maybe I won't, but I'm thankful for the opportunity.

That was another thing I really loved about everyone I met at Atlas and everyone I know there... They are down to earth, genuine people. No one walks around with their nose in the air pretending to be better than everyone else because they have an MBA.

Don't feel bad guys. This management has no clue to the reality of whats going on. Its all rainbows and sunshine coming out of the asses. They are playing a dangerous game here. If I was an investor I would pull my money out of Atlas Air. There is gonna be a meltdown here.
Bull$hit letters coming to our homes trying to sway our spouses. I used mine to start my grill. Just another union busting 101 tactic and waste of money.

The two folks that just got rejected also joined APC this month. The ones that got hired have been on here a few years. Just an observation. With the two morons on the other threads, I wouldn't put it pass our knee-jerking reaction style leadership team in NY to come on here and say some crap to create doubt about a shortage.

When I was rejected from a regional ten years ago, it never crossed my mind to go sign up for a public forum then tell everyone I got rejected by some really nice people.

No accusations, just an observation.

Sorry, I just wanted to share my experience and others can take if for whatever it might be worth, if anything.

I also wanted to let Code Red know that he wasn't the only one out there scratching his head. Like him, I was really trying to stand back and look in the mirror and see if there was something I need to own-up-to and improve and, like him, I am really scratching my head. Maybe I should have done that in private, but if he hadn't originally said anything on here, then I would have thought I was the only one...so I'm glad he mentioned it.

I gave honest, thoughtful answers to their questions, I wouldn't have changed any of them. Their HR team decided that I wasn't a fit for their very unique operation, and that's fine. I'm not whining, I'm not bitter, and I'm not a management decoy - I'm just someone who wanted to share his "Atlas Air Hiring" experience.