Obviously you're going to have to figure out what works for you. We'got 550+ pages saying this is not a 3 on/4 off 4on/3 off airline. I will say about half the lines in the JFK bid packs have been 60 day lines. The 60 day lines have you going to work three times. This month and next I'm only working 15 days. Three off, work 6, 12 days off, work 14, 7 days off, work 10 and 8 days off. I don't know if the other bases have as many 60 day lines.

GT and et.al: Just a spectator's opinion, but if you are on the fence about the days away, you may find yourself miserable. It is something that must suit you and your family (I held off in 2010 because we had cancer hit our family, which was beaten.).

Before you make a decision, I would try to talk to a few Giant crews. I have found them very helpful and frank. I continue to be amazed with the people I've met.

From my seat I have seen first hand who has been selected for the interviews, all very very talented aviators. I have used this time to prepare and sharpen my game.

I wish you luck. There is a great deal of information available to help you.

Not to be a "read the thread!" Nazi, but i think if you did take the time, to hear all the different nuances and opinions and schedules, by the end you'd most likely have a definite opinion. Or, if you're not chomping at the bit, you would realize it's probably not the perfect fit for you.

I am going to chime in from the cheap seats..... we are seeing attrition at K4 about 2 per month over the last year plus a handful of retirements. We are slated to have 4 retire this year. We have a group of AA guys taking the recall because of the equity payout restrictions, these are guys who most likely would have deferred as long as possible if they could have. Overall though, and this speaks to the poster above who was unsure of the schedules at Atlas, if the 17 day schedule is even an issue think hard, its the #1 reason guys leave most ACMI companies like Atlas, Kalitta etc. It really has to be a good fit for you and your families lifestyle. I personally like the basically 2 weeks on 2 weeks off schedule it works for me, others not so much. Good Luck to those selected and still trying at Atlas. FWIW, I was an April 2010 interviewee the same day as Talon. Didnt get the nod for Atlas and I am okay with that, I enjoy where I am. Again, Good luck to everyone.

Quite true. You should also know that the process was not a normal negotiation and there were a lot of events involved that don't occur in normal negotiations.

First time poster. Finally made it through all 557 pages! Only took about a week. Thanks to everyone who has contributed to this thread! Great info, I'm starting to study and gather resources. Thank you!

I originally got called in Nov 2011; phone interview and online test. Missed the interview window by the time I completed the test. Got called in Aug 2012 for an interview but couldn't make it due to being deployed on the other side of the globe. So, it's been a bit of a long road, but I'm excited for Tuesday!

Good luck to you as well! I'll be staying there also, so I'm sure we'll all run into each other Monday night into Tuesday. Hope this works out for all of us...

Good Luck with the interview!

Wow! You went through the wickets rather quickly...congrats on getting the call too.
I tell ya, from what I've read in these threads, I'm just feeling lucky and privileged just to be interviewing with Atlas. See ya there!

Atlas Pilots Opinion Concerning AAWW PAC
 

Been doing a great deal of research regarding the company. From my seat I continue to be impressed. I recently discovered AAWW PAC and noticed all in a leadership roll investing in this.

As an outsider I view this somewhat favorably and see the company leadership walking-the-walk by investing in its political capital. Without trying to be controversial, what is the line pilot's opinion of this PAC?

I do not think this has been covered anywhere in this thread, if so...blame my braincells for not remembering.

Thank you.

John

" I know that we are 1.5 years into a 5 year contract. With that being said, there is no way we will have a new contract 5 years from now. Look how many years it took to get this one."

This may be true. However, Atlas may actually have a contract sooner than 5 years from now. If management senses that the current contract is (or might soon be) causing enough of a problem with retention and/or hiring, they could open negotiations earlier and offer better contract terms before the 5 year period is up. That has happened at other airlines.

Do I think that is likely? I have no idea, and I don't think anyone else does, either. The hiring situation is VERY complicated, and depends on so many factors outside the control of any airline management or pilot group, that it is very difficult to predict how the hiring boom will affect specific companies.

"Talon1011, been through this thread and understand gateway, but just want to clarify that when you mention commuting you are referring to a company paid full fare ticket to your base, and not to jumpseating on your own dime. Thanks man."
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"Hmmm, I was under the impression that the commute was on days off regardless. So you are saying that if the trip does not start in base, you commute during your 17 on? Apologies if this was previously discussed."


Some Atlas pilots do jumpseat to work, if they want to. I only know a couple that do this. A good number of pilots drive to start their trips, and they are paid mileage (or the company pays for the one-way rental car).

When Atlas sends you via airline, it may be to your base, or it may not be. For example, most JFK trips do not start in JFK, so they will not airline you to JFK. Most HSV trips do start in HSV, so they will airline you to HSV. Most trips for both JFK and HSV do not end in either JFK or HSV, so you will be airlined to your gateway (or if doing alternate travel) to wherever you and the company have negotiated on.

My experience is I usually airline to the designated location on my last day off, before my pattern starts. I usually airline home either two days before, or one day before, my first day off. Occasionally, I will airline out two days before my pattern starts, or on the first day of my pattern. Very infrequently, I will get home on my first day off (or later)....thus getting home "late".

Gents -

Anybody else interviewing this Thursday, 7 Feb?

jed610

Just curious, but where has this happened at?

Yes, even though it would make sense for ANY company that may experience an attrition problem, management (regardless of which company) would rather wait till the amendable date vice getting a CBA done early.

what an AAWW PAC?

Atlas Worldwide Political Action Committee. Thanks for inquiring.

Anyone who interviewed the 15/16/17th of Jan hear anything either way yet? (aside from those offered employment on the spot) Going on 3 weeks now.....on pins and needles.

Atlas Air Hiring
 

Was wondering the same. Buddy of mine spoke with HR yesterday and they told him they'd been a little busy with the new hires and would get to the other applicants soon.

Nothing here. I've been delaying a trip out of town in order to be around to receive a letter with any news.

taxes
 

They do this to avoid being taxed on the travel. You will be taxed on the air and hotel costs as if they were regular income. :mad:

Been updating my resume since December 2011. Chicago Jobfair...still waiting for the call. Atlas is my #1 preference. I know there are a LOT of folks looking to get on with them as well... Great outfit. Do any of you insiders know if they hire 121 guys without 121 PIC time? I do have about 4500hrs of RJ time (right seat)..sad..
and about 6000hrs total.
Competing with the C5 or C17 or other ACMI guys is probably tough with these times...

I was hired at Atlas with similar experience to yours. Based on RJ guys I have met that have been hired, it seems that after about seven years at a regional, Atlas considers you qualified. Good luck and keep the faith.

More Atlas growth:

Atlas Air Worldwide Announces New Contract with Chapman Freeborn - Yahoo! Finance

I suspect that aircraft is going to be used to replace Southern Air our of Brize Norton. We (K4) have flown numerous trips for them this over the past 30 days and it was known then that Atlas was picking it up starting 1 Feb...

Yep. That's a done deal. Soutern no longer has the contract. It's ours now. I was there 2 weeks ago and got confirmation.

Great to know... 7 years seniority is a couple months away...
I keep the faith and will keep sending HR my bi-monthly resume update... One of these days, they'll call me! And I'll probably be in the air ;)

Not to worry, they know you're a pilot. :) They'll leave a message and wait a reasonable amount of time for your return call.

Still updating, waiting, and hoping!!!!

To the current 747 & 767 guys, since the daily guarantee are you noticing more productive flying? Meaning are you doing more flying when on and less time sitting in hotels? Also, do you notice more time at home? I've searched this site a bit, but most likely have missed the answer if it's in there. The reason for my question is that I currently fly internationally and find that if I'm on the road for a long period of time it's nice to have over 24hrs at a layover for sleeping and getting out, but it's also nice to be productive and have a little more home time as well. ACMI is not specifically consistent, but maybe there is a general theme here. Thanks in advance.

At least on the 747 side I don't think it made any difference. For Jan and Feb I'm only working 15 days each month. I had 4 legs in Jan. At least the rig will bring me a few hours above guarantee.

Got the call today. Start 74 class on the 18th. Applied in August. Interviewed Jan 16th. 3500ish TT, all mil. Thanks to all here. This forum was great resource during the whole process. Two questions: what kind of beer is most appreciated by the grill? And, what is the dress at training? Assuming business casual....polos ok or button down only?

Free seems to be the most popular.

Business casual it is. Polos ok, no jeans, tees, or flip-flops. Jeans are allowed on Sat/Sun, though.

BTW, Congrats!!!

Edit: Do bring a dress shirt and tie for your oral and type ride. You may be asked to remove the tie, depending which check airman you get, but you'd better show up with one.

Just a tie....suit not required?

We all wore shirt/tie/slacks, but no one wore suits.

Atlas Air Hiring
 

Got the call today for the 18 Feb class as well.

Applied in Oct
Interview 15 Jan
2500 hours TT, all heavy mil

Thanks to all who've contributed to this forum. To all those still waiting for the interview or even considering Atlas, this thread is invaluable. Everything is in here. Everything.

See y'all in Miami!

Congrats Tanker and Aloha!

+1 on the Congrats to Tanker and Aloha!

I got the call yesterday for an 18 Feb 747 class. Unfortunately I was flying in the middle east at the time. WHen I landed I checked my voicemail and immediately left voicemails and emailed back as well. I hope I'm not too late. Congrats to those who will be there. I hope to see/meet you all on 18 Feb.

5500hrs, All military (C141, C17)

Congratulations KYTBRD, ALOHA and Tanker!

ALOHA and Tanker I heard you guys had not received your letters yet after the interview. Did you get the call without receiving your letter. I just interviewed 5 Feb and want to know if I need run circles around my phone all day and wag my tail waiting on it to ring.:)

This forum was spot on. I have nothing new to add except we didn't fill out paperwork (PRIA, ETC) and the essay question was to "explain V1 in reference to balanced field length and explain how this affects climb performance as well as reduce power." Sorry that is as close as I can get to recalling it. I learned my takeoff data in the military and couldn't get my hands around the question. I did my best and wasn't going to let it get me down. I believe the rest of the interview went well thanks to this forum.

KC-135 retired
6700 Total
6300 Heavy Turbo
5200 PIC