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CaptainHvac 04-19-2016 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by boeingdvr (Post 2112741)
So- you are saying any airline going through heated contract talks- are subject to furloughs? Like SWA & DAL presently are ??At the end of the day- pilots are needed to FLY the operation.

Yes, pilots are needed to fly and generate revenue and DAL, SWA understand this and want to keep the printing press going. They are companies that have proven by real action (DAL/NWA merger and subsequent huge contract(s), plus profit sharing, SWA being one of the highest if not the highest 737 operators in the USA, plus massive profit sharing over decades) that they understand the downfalls of ****ing off a pilot group. Im not saying these groups haven't fought for these things, because they have, but if you can't see how reckless Atlas management team is being, take another look at the facts. Atlas, and my old shop RAH, don't understand how or why they need to keep the money printing press going. They are garbage operators who DO NOT understand these simple business rules when DAL, SWA, FEDEX, UPS, AA etc... DO! RAH did have somewhat of a BS furlough after hiring a freaking ton and kind of re-wrote the book on how to mess with a pilot group (they employed F&H too). Im not saying Atlas will furlough, no. Im saying this sinking ship has no direction and I might be willing to bet "furlough to mess with us" sounds like a good idea to them.

Enroute 04-19-2016 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by DJPILOT (Post 2112406)
Did anyone have the Kalitta proposal ? ... rumor is increase of 55 % across the board . . . Hope that Atlas guys get something better than this...

Can you expand on what this means. Who proposed what to who and when?

DJPILOT 04-19-2016 01:52 PM

Got this from a friend..... somebody from K4 posted some info for new hires candidates ....

Will be helpful if a K4 driver give some intel about this..

http://s31.postimg.org/lrmjjeeaf/Hghlights.jpg

http://s31.postimg.org/ychypp8lz/Cap...d_per_diem.jpg

http://s31.postimg.org/amsj10a8n/FO_pay.jpg

NikeBuddy 04-19-2016 02:02 PM

Completely fuzzy, can't read. Might just be me!

DJPILOT 04-19-2016 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by NikeBuddy (Post 2112879)
Completely fuzzy, can't read. Might just be me!


View image: Hghlights


View image: Capt pay and per diem


View image: FO pay

NikeBuddy 04-19-2016 03:03 PM

Holy buckets! Congrats to our Kalitta brethren, you guys have had a long slog of it. I can feel Purchase cringing from here....time to pay the piper Atlas

NikeBuddy 04-19-2016 03:20 PM

Any 401K improvements?

Crazy Canuck 04-19-2016 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by DJPILOT (Post 2112893)


Wow...just compare those rates with ours. Good for Kalitta!

plift 04-19-2016 04:47 PM

Those rates and max 16 days per month and their union turned it down so they'll hopefully get something better. It'll be awesome if we start losing pilots to Kalitta, maybe that will make purchase change their tune since they don't seem to care about losing pilots to all the majors.

727C47 04-19-2016 05:29 PM

I'm K4 alumni, I'm proud of those guys they have fought the good fight : ) Good on them !!!


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