The award was published today. All 767 FO's are awarded to new hires, good luck!

Do you think that means the pool will be drained? Still swimming

After all the training slots for the 767 are determined, it is likely that the hiring and therefore class size will increase...to a point. Since we have now created 20 "vacancies" on the B747 staffing by awarding Captain positions to them, it will mean filling those vacancies, and hiring the 767 FO's...all at a time when we are adding airframes, and planning for B747-8 deliveries.

So, my personal opinion is that there will be an acceleration in hiring for the next few months.

Good luck.

Is there a ground school date for the new 767 captains yet? Trying to get a feel for how soon the need for new pilots will be! (insert need for ME)

BTW anyone have photos of the Atlas 767 yet???

Atlas Air Boeing 767-300 Combo Aviation Design - Modified Airliner Photos

Someone has way too much time on their hands to come up with that picture...

And no dates have been announced yet for the 767 Captain training.

Thanks for the info!

Thread jack...

Looking at the hiring requirements, how does Atlas look at military fighter time? I don't meet any of the requirements for FMS/Heavy experience.

It's NOT a requirement;

They've interviewed/hired plenty that didn't meet the preferred experience.

I didn't have any FMS/Heavy/Ocean crossing time when I was hired (Feb). Although I've heard it is a question on the pre-interview stuff now?

A good friend of mine was hired earlier this year with nothing but S-3, EA-6B, and EA-18G time. Now a 747-200 FO. Has made a few "carrier landings" in the Whale, but otherwise doing well and enjoying Atlas a lot.

The PAQ form has "YES/NO" type questions in regards to glass/FMS/heavy/crossings type stuff. And IIRC, there was a sub section on the flight time grid that asked for hour totals of some of the preferred, but NOT minimum requirements.

I wish I knew what the golden token was to get a phone call. I have been dying to work for this company and would love to be part of the Atlas team in any flying capacity. Military and meet all of the preferred requirements, two internal recs and haven't had a sniff yet. This is a true exercise of patience and hope for that matter. Any advice is welcomed from anybody who might know something I don't!

I just interviewed, and the young lady that gave us the tour mentioned that there is not really anyone in the pool...

Thought that was odd, as I know there are many gues on this thread who have said the same thing. Good luck to all...

Yeah that is odd. I checked my letter last night, and it said they would place me in the hiering pool. Hopefully all the swimmers will be rescued soon.

Can someone please PM me a name to address my cover letter to, as well as an address & fax number to HR? I want to hit all the bases! Thanks!

Just submit the PAQ. It works.

I've been doing that for a while now without any luck. I'll keep at it, but I was just looking for any way to increase my odds. Even just a name at HR that I can use to make my submission email a little more personal would be great.

Fair enough, I just remember reading that they just want the PAQ and nothing else. Buddy of mine first submitted in October and interviewed in June, so it can take a while. Probably your best bet to stand out would be face time at a job fair, if you don't have an internal rec.

Copy, thanks for your help!

I started class today and was able to get a little info from our Indoc Instructor. He had heard that my class was, at one point, going to be the last class for the rest of the calendar year. But, now, Atlas is planning 7 more classes through the end of the year; 5 classes of 12 and 2 classes of 10 for a total of 80 more trained. The last class is slated for December 5th. BTW, my class only has 8 students (not sure why).

I don't know how many more interviews they are going to conduct. Heard that there's around 40 people still swimming, and that's not counting those who just interviewed last week. Instructor mentioned they're screening out non-glass/FMS pilots. Maybe that's due to no more Classic training planned or that it reduces the 744 training by up to 3 days (if every student has a lot of glass experience)...or both.

If I heard my classmates correctly, 2 were February interviewees, 3 were March (myself included) and 3 were from April.

Good luck to all applying.

Great info thanks. Any word on the first 767 class?

Welp, just going by "the numbers", that means about 280 more guys will get to interview.

That's assuming no poolies.

What should I expect as a first year FO for the take home? I understand the flying will be on a lot of international routes and would like to find out if the pay will be spent on expenses..
Also, do you have ZED benefits with airlines ? Have family overseas that I have been visiting almost every 3 months.

Thanks..

I was taking home about 2700 a month putting 15% in the 401k first. Per diem runs pretty steady around 800 a month (for 17 days). Pig out on the plane, we toss catering every landing. And about half the hotels include breakfast if you happen to be there at the right time. Once you make it through two months in MIA on 1200 a month (+ about 1500/month in per diem) the line shouldn't be a problem.

No ZEDs, there's some flat rate standby on Delta for 200 dollars a ticket. Not sure if that applies internationally.

I've been here a little over a year and thus far roughly half of my per diem each month has been put in the bank along with the paycheck. Of course, one can spend every dime of per diem out on the road but you have to be a glutton and a lush to do that. Wait! I just described the pilot fraternity to a "T". ;-) Suffice it to say that unless you are extravagant on the road your expenses will be covered by per diem.

My contact said there were just over 80 people in the pool as of two weeks ago, and they were planning a class a month for the next two years. That number wouldn't include anyone from this month's interviews, either. ... But, as we all know, everything is subject to change, and rumors will fly.

Anyone get a call for a class recently?

Hey Riffy what's up.

Hey all, I just got the bad FedEx a little while ago. I interviewed on June 16th.

For those of you still waiting to hear, I think if you make it through today with no FedEx, that is good news.

No telling what shot me down. I had some negative factors, no doubt. Lack of currency (about 18 months), 737 type from HPA, and NJA furloughee. Could have bombed one of the interviews as well, although I thought they all went great. Who knows how they weight things in the final tally.

Final stats for all interested:

Applied 3/25.
Phone Interview 5/30
Technical Assessment 6/1 (88)
Interview 6/16

TT 3500
PIC Turbine 1100 (C-5)
IP 75 (C-5)
Types: B737, CE-750, BE400/MU300, A320 (SIC)

Good luck to everyone trying to get on at Atlas! Good things are happening.

Like I said on the "other place", sorry to hear that man.

Maiden rules, and so does Ed Force 1. I got pics with Steve Harris and Janic Geers a few years ago before a show in AKL, it was awesome.

Thanks dude!

Maiden does rule! I hope they make it down here to Texas in the near future. I missed them the last time they came through.

It appears that the good letters are arriving today as well. A guy that interviewed with me got the pool letter today. He is a regional guy (RAH).

Hope more folks hear good news today!

There may be more than 40 in the pool. Only HR knows for sure (Come on D, spill the beans...lol). And, the additional 80 trained were only counting those through the rest of this year. Your contact may be correct, too, if training/hiring continues next year.

Heard today that there'll be 133 retiring in the next 3 years. Told that the FOs that were hired a year ago could very well be upgrading to Capt within 3-5 years.

A bunch of the higher-ups briefly said hi today. But, the VP of Flt Ops is supposed to drop by for some Q&A time with our class soon. I'll try to share some of his "rumors" afterwards. ;)

I ran through the numbers a year ago. Starting in 2013 there will be 25 to 30 hitting 65 each year through 2021. After that I don't care.:D

Do the retirement numbers count the over 65 FE's (which I believe is most of the FE's) who will be forced to depart when the classics go away?

As of last summer, I was told there were 127 pilots over the age of 60. However, some of them are FO's.

My numbers were just off the pilot list. There was a class in 08 of upgrading FEs but they're counted on the pilot list now. Those guys only had a few years to go and make up the 2 or 3 retiring both this year and next.

Just got my bad FedEx letter too. Any words of advice on what to do to boost my chances for next time? I have no long haul and no wide-body experience. Suggestions on where to go to get that experience?

DC8,

The FE's are on a separate seniority list, and anyway they are not required to retire at a certain age like pilots...