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742Dash 12-06-2014 05:33 PM


Originally Posted by formerbuffpilot (Post 1777628)
I wasn't told specifically that unanswered questions didn't count against you...only you didn't have to answer all 100 questions to pass. I've been told that that magic number to pass is 65. I was told to reapply in 6 months...kind of sucks!

It appears that HR and "the great minds" want people who know how to cheat.

In 6 months apply again. And for the next test have 4 or 5 friends there with laptops to help you. If you can not do that, don't feel badly. Neither can the guy at home in Idaho who has 20 years of real world experience but is now unemployed in the middle of nowhere.

If this test was real they would do it at the interview. But they don't, and it isn't. But it does work well for those in a crash pad whose real goal is Delta.

Stomper 12-06-2014 09:48 PM

Online test
 
Anyone know how long after taking the online test to expect a call or email for the interview. I took the test a couple of weeks ago and no call yet.
Thanks

ATCsaidDoWhat 12-07-2014 06:54 AM


Originally Posted by chip1 (Post 1772449)
No, they aren't getting fed up over it and it doesn't cost them the amount of money you think. There is a STACK of resumes of people wanting to work for Atlas as proved by this thread alone. Their training costs are so low that the revolving door doesn't hurt them enough, because it clearly doesn't show in their willingness to change anything. The only thing that will make them aware is if the planes stop moving, which they haven't had much of a hiccup with yet...(keep on out basing!!!) They do not care about you, or us, or hiring, or other contracts, or training expenses. If they did, don't you think it would be clear? Do you really think they are forward looking? No, and its clear every single day out on line. There hasn't been one single indication from Atlas that the things you mention are true. Money is the only thing they understand and we haven't communicated that well enough yet, believe it.

You are equating a STACK of resumes to the fact that they don't care about having to train people only to see them leave?

Keep that cost in mind when profit sharing gets reduced due to that cost.

Yes, there is a "stack." Expect them to use a much finer comb as they go through it.

captainv 12-07-2014 12:00 PM


Originally Posted by ATCsaidDoWhat (Post 1778031)
Keep that cost in mind when profit sharing gets reduced due to that cost.

The only thing I expect from profit sharing is to be able to super size my fries. Hope we learned our lesson on that one!

ATCsaidDoWhat 12-07-2014 04:03 PM


Originally Posted by captainv (Post 1778167)
The only thing I expect from profit sharing is to be able to super size my fries. Hope we learned our lesson on that one!

True. Better to take half or two thirds of the percentage in annual hard dollar increases that roll up and can't be taken away. If you still want a small percentage of it as lagniappe, fine. But hard dollars compound and put you in a better position for the next CBA.

DC8DRIVER 12-07-2014 05:06 PM


Originally Posted by ATCsaidDoWhat (Post 1778031)
Keep that cost in mind when profit sharing gets reduced due to that cost.

Profit sharing???

What company do you work for??

At Atlas there is no more profit sharing to speak of.

Hope it works for you wherever you work.

At Atlas, our profit sharing agreement was a wonderful victory.

For the company.

For the pilot group, it is an insult.

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outaluckagain 12-07-2014 05:23 PM


Originally Posted by DC8DRIVER (Post 1778337)
Profit sharing???

What company do you work for??

At Atlas there is no more profit sharing to speak of.

Hope it works for you wherever you work.

At Atlas, our profit sharing agreement was a wonderful victory.

For the company.

For the pilot group, it is an insult.

8

Profit sharing is never worth what you have given up to get it, like an overall increase to your hourly rate. As soon as you get a legitimate increase to your hourly, or other substantial QOL increase, the profit sharing vanishes.

Likely excuses include...."Your contribution to the company profit no longer represents what was considered prior".

Globemaster2827 12-07-2014 10:56 PM


Originally Posted by Stomper (Post 1777942)
Anyone know how long after taking the online test to expect a call or email for the interview. I took the test a couple of weeks ago and no call yet.
Thanks

I got my call the day after, but that was over 3 years ago.

flyboy8272 12-08-2014 05:18 AM

I have a couple of friends who have been waiting over a month; dont worry. Only one round of interviews recently so expect a call when they pick back up after the holidays.

ATCsaidDoWhat 12-08-2014 05:26 AM


Originally Posted by DC8DRIVER (Post 1778337)
Profit sharing???

What company do you work for??

At Atlas there is no more profit sharing to speak of.

Hope it works for you wherever you work.

At Atlas, our profit sharing agreement was a wonderful victory.

For the company.

For the pilot group, it is an insult.

8

You need to reread the post. I'm guessing you weren't around when the original deal was agreed to. Profit sharing used to be really good, with a bunch of guys getting over $20,000.00...some even more.

The PROBLEM is that profit sharing is a VARIABLE...and too many people expect it to be more than it is.

That's why it's better to take the percentages in profit sharing and make them hard dollars in the contract. That way there is no variable, just hard dollars. Looking back to when it exceeded 15%, it would have been much better to have negotiated two annual hard 5% increases with a 5% profit sharing variable than hoping for 15% to last forever. That way you get 10% each year of the CBA that never goes away. And your baseline for the next CBA goes up substantially, giving you a higher baseline to negotiate from.


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