Atlas
03-17-2016, 10:51 AM
#1
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Atlas
To all pilots considering Atlas,, stay away !! Stay FAR away !!
In my 16 years here I have never seen morale this low. Even the maintenance of the aircraft is starting to slip and get shoddy.
Our Exco is exceptionally weak. They dont know what to with these guys(management). To believe that the company is going to "negotiate in good faith" is evidence of their naivety. All we hear from them is how bad Atlas management is to us(boo hoo hoo) and nothing of our plans on how to counter them. My 11 yr. old can do what these guys are doing.
Scheduling has turned into a disaster. You dont do anything you bid for.
To summarize,, Stay away !!
In my 16 years here I have never seen morale this low. Even the maintenance of the aircraft is starting to slip and get shoddy.
Our Exco is exceptionally weak. They dont know what to with these guys(management). To believe that the company is going to "negotiate in good faith" is evidence of their naivety. All we hear from them is how bad Atlas management is to us(boo hoo hoo) and nothing of our plans on how to counter them. My 11 yr. old can do what these guys are doing.
Scheduling has turned into a disaster. You dont do anything you bid for.
To summarize,, Stay away !!
03-17-2016, 11:05 AM
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Position: Knuckle-dragging line pilot
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Originally Posted by Whaledriver101
To all pilots considering Atlas,, stay away !! Stay FAR away !!
In my 16 years here I have never seen morale this low. Even the maintenance of the aircraft is starting to slip and get shoddy.
Our Exco is exceptionally weak. They dont know what to with these guys(management). To believe that the company is going to "negotiate in good faith" is evidence of their naivety. All we hear from them is how bad Atlas management is to us(boo hoo hoo) and nothing of our plans on how to counter them. My 11 yr. old can do what these guys are doing.
Scheduling has turned into a disaster. You dont do anything you bid for.
To summarize,, Stay away !!
In my 16 years here I have never seen morale this low. Even the maintenance of the aircraft is starting to slip and get shoddy.
Our Exco is exceptionally weak. They dont know what to with these guys(management). To believe that the company is going to "negotiate in good faith" is evidence of their naivety. All we hear from them is how bad Atlas management is to us(boo hoo hoo) and nothing of our plans on how to counter them. My 11 yr. old can do what these guys are doing.
Scheduling has turned into a disaster. You dont do anything you bid for.
To summarize,, Stay away !!
- Yes, better to stay away. Don't say we didn't warn you.
- Maintenance starting to slip? Fine. Take more time on your preflight, write up everything, even - gasp! - before departure and take the safest choice of action if something breaks en route. Sounds like a problem for their on-time percentage.
- The ExCo is exceptionally weak? Either you have an axe to grind or you're misinformed, IMO. Have you talked to an ExCo lately? Or a Negotiating Committee member? You think it's good strategy to lay all of our cards on the table? That's where we disagree. The ExCo is only as strong as we are. What leverage are you giving them? Time to pull together, not break apart.
- Scheduling has gotten worse, sure, but when did we ever fly what we bid for?
03-17-2016, 11:15 AM
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[QUOTE=captainv;2090770]I agree/disagree with you.
- Yes, better to stay away. Don't say we didn't warn you.
- Maintenance starting to slip? Fine. Take more time on your preflight, write up everything, even - gasp! - before departure and take the safest choice of action if something breaks en route. Sounds like a problem for their on-time percentage.
- The ExCo is exceptionally weak? Either you have an axe to grind or you're misinformed, IMO. Have you talked to an ExCo lately? Or a Negotiating Committee member? You think it's good strategy to lay all of our cards on the table? That's where we disagree. The ExCo is only as strong as we are. What leverage are you giving them? Time to pull together, not break apart.
- Scheduling has gotten worse, sure, but when did we ever fly what we bid for
+1
- Yes, better to stay away. Don't say we didn't warn you.
- Maintenance starting to slip? Fine. Take more time on your preflight, write up everything, even - gasp! - before departure and take the safest choice of action if something breaks en route. Sounds like a problem for their on-time percentage.
- The ExCo is exceptionally weak? Either you have an axe to grind or you're misinformed, IMO. Have you talked to an ExCo lately? Or a Negotiating Committee member? You think it's good strategy to lay all of our cards on the table? That's where we disagree. The ExCo is only as strong as we are. What leverage are you giving them? Time to pull together, not break apart.
- Scheduling has gotten worse, sure, but when did we ever fly what we bid for
+1
03-17-2016, 12:14 PM
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Posts: 71
Originally Posted by captainv
I agree/disagree with you.
- Yes, better to stay away. Don't say we didn't warn you.
- Maintenance starting to slip? Fine. Take more time on your preflight, write up everything, even - gasp! - before departure and take the safest choice of action if something breaks en route. Sounds like a problem for their on-time percentage.
- The ExCo is exceptionally weak? Either you have an axe to grind or you're misinformed, IMO. Have you talked to an ExCo lately? Or a Negotiating Committee member? You think it's good strategy to lay all of our cards on the table? That's where we disagree. The ExCo is only as strong as we are. What leverage are you giving them? Time to pull together, not break apart.
- Scheduling has gotten worse, sure, but when did we ever fly what we bid for?
- Yes, better to stay away. Don't say we didn't warn you.
- Maintenance starting to slip? Fine. Take more time on your preflight, write up everything, even - gasp! - before departure and take the safest choice of action if something breaks en route. Sounds like a problem for their on-time percentage.
- The ExCo is exceptionally weak? Either you have an axe to grind or you're misinformed, IMO. Have you talked to an ExCo lately? Or a Negotiating Committee member? You think it's good strategy to lay all of our cards on the table? That's where we disagree. The ExCo is only as strong as we are. What leverage are you giving them? Time to pull together, not break apart.
- Scheduling has gotten worse, sure, but when did we ever fly what we bid for?
03-17-2016, 12:22 PM
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Position: Gear slinger
Posts: 2,906
Originally Posted by Radioactive
Internet bravado. What if you are in BFE? You know good and well that you really won't ground a jet for something trivial just to try and stick it to the company if you are on a trip in BFE and potentially get stuck there.
03-17-2016, 09:02 PM
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Position: Knuckle-dragging line pilot
Posts: 943
Originally Posted by Radioactive
Internet bravado. What if you are in BFE? You know good and well that you really won't ground a jet for something trivial just to try and stick it to the company if you are on a trip in BFE and potentially get stuck there.
03-18-2016, 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by White Cap
Captain V, sometimes I can't believe that I work with these people. Internet bravado? Please, child.
No $#!+ 'Internet Bravado' Get the F'outta here! You crack me up.
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