WhiskeyKilo

So in theory if you jump seated to your base and had a crash pad then you wouldn't be charged any imputed income?

Let's also say for example your base in ANC and your pairing starts with a deadhead to Hanover, Germany. If I lived in NYC could I get the DH flight out of JFK or would I have to get to ANC to avoid imputed income?

RyeMex

Gateway travel is a perk that the company provides to you. If you choose to use it, then it is the company's responsibility to get you to your base. For example, a few months ago the company was sending me to my base a day early (which is another problem we have here) on the last flight of the day. That flight cancelled, stranding me in CLT. Not gonna make my trip? Not my problem. Company's problem. Now, if I was Jumpseating in that scenario, it is very much my problem. If you don't accept the gateway travel then it is your responsibility to get to your base, and there is no leniency provided whatsoever.

An important distinction to make is the difference between gateway travel and deadheading. Gateway travel is *only* between your gateway airport and your base. If your trip starts somewhere else (your JFK example) then the company is responsible for getting you there, they must do so on one of your work days (gateway travel will be on your last "day off"), and you don't have to worry about imputed income.

atpcliff

Gateway Travel is between your Gateway and your base. That cost can be imputed.

If Atlas buys you a ticket between your Gateway and somewhere other than your base, there is no imputed income. If you do "Alternate Travel", which is to/from somewhere other than your Gateway, then there is no imputed income.

PM me if you have more questions...

atpcliff

Here is an example answer: Pilot at Atlas had Gateway to his base, then hotel, then a DH on Atlas, another hotel, then another DH on Atlas, and another hotel. His actual first operating leg started in the Middle East. He called Travel, and airlined from his Gateway directly to the ME destination. No imputed income.

PM me if you have more questions.

742Dash

That is correct.

Yet for all the angst on this thread about Gateway, no one does that.

Hopefully a better system will come out of the current negotiations. Meanwhile most pilots seem to have found ways to make the system work for them, at least in a way better than the jump seat/crash pad alternative.

Unkown Rider

Can a New Hire Reserve FO based in ANC living in IAH try and work scheduling during days off for an assignment that sends them from Gateway to start a trip?

At my old company, the inside baseball secret, pimp the schedulers at the end of days off for an assignment out of the junior base and surprisingly it worked quite often (being polite helped, some fellas said flirting with the fatties in scheds always worked

Houston was always senior, so unless you worked a deal, you were jump seating early on last day off to be in position. I'd buy scheduling $50 in pizza every time I pulled off picking up a trip out of IAH til a CP called me on it and said "knock it off, they're fat enough in SOCC)

Atrasaty

Sorry....not trying to be rude but we don't need "deal makers" at Atlas right now. Come by all means if you can stomach the deal but tow the line from day one. Good luck.

Unkown Rider

Not trying to make any deals, last company was a different place entirely. Not better, not worse. Put another way, if you are junior, under current contract, you are on the hook for travel on a day off to your base and no smart work arounds? Is that the case?

P.S. I am not at Atlas, just trying sort out the what ifs before making a move. I did not take your reply as rude. I get that things are not good at present. Thanks for the reply.

WTFover

Junior or senior, seniority doesn't really matter here as it does elsewhere, but, yes, 17 days with travel on days off.

Av8er1550

Can someone who flys the 767 (CVG based) PM me please? I'm currently w/ a regional and live in CVG so the thought of being home based sounds appealing. I am just wondering what QOL would be like on either the 767 side or 747 side once I could hold CVG as a base. I have had a few great replies so far but I haven't had the opportunity to speak w/ a 767 cvg based guy. Thanks again!