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Old 11-30-2017, 04:50 AM
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Actually it's not flawed, it is historical. I've studied law and history as a serious hobby for about 10 years.
Well, that changes everything! Wow, since "studying" law is your hobby that gives you credentials to speak on the subject as an authority! Have you considered contacting your state bar association and informing them you are now ready to sit for the bar exam? Or perhaps your local university will need a law Professor? I mean, after all, you have all this knowledge obtained from your "hobby".


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No because since the late 1800s and early 1900s the lawyers in this country are (incorrectly) trained to base everything on precedent, or stare decisis as opposed to the actual meaning of the original written text (which is the proper way).

This means that if an incorrect or faulty ruling is made it will likely stay there forever unless the SCOTUS overturns it... including if the SCOTUS made the ruling. But they are highly unlikely to rule against themselves.
Just because you supposedly study law as a "hobby" doesn't make you anything resembling a law expert. That paragraph above speaks volumes of your "study", such as you are clueless.

Ever consider taking up Gynecology as a hobby?
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Old 11-30-2017, 06:38 AM
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Sonic lives in a libertarian utopia. He thinks there should be no licensing of professionals.

I'd hate to hear his thoughts on the FDA.

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Sonic lives in a libertarian utopia. He thinks there should be no licensing of professionals.

I'd hate to hear his thoughts on the FDA.

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Many libertarian ideals might work in our society. But society never would have gotten to where it is by applying those ideals, and probably wouldn't last very long if we tried it now.

That said, I did vote for my first libertarian last year...
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I think he accidentally read about the Napoleonic Code, which we don’t use in the USA (except Louisiana sort of pretends to). Our system (English Common Law) is much different, and as others have pointed out, Administrative Law is something else entirely. Oui? ⚜️
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And yet you know nothing about administrative law.
Actually all I need to know is that it is beneath or subservient to the Constitution (or supposed to be at least).
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Sonic lives in a libertarian utopia. He thinks there should be no licensing of professionals.
Certification and licensing are two different things.




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I'd hate to hear his thoughts on the FDA.
You mean the organization that isn't allowed to exist per the Constitution? The organization which jails people for selling raw milk? The organization that jails people for making their own soap? The organization the holds armed raids on produce vendors? You mean the organization that kills hundreds of thousands of people each year because they deny proven drugs for use?

Yeah, those guys...
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Well, that changes everything! Wow, since "studying" law is your hobby that gives you credentials to speak on the subject as an authority! Have you considered contacting your state bar association and informing them you are now ready to sit for the bar exam? Or perhaps your local university will need a law Professor? I mean, after all, you have all this knowledge obtained from your "hobby".




Just because you supposedly study law as a "hobby" doesn't make you anything resembling a law expert. That paragraph above speaks volumes of your "study", such as you are clueless.
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Sonic Flyer,

You’ll need to present your constitutional theories to the SCOTUS and slap down the administrative law process. While I’m somewhat sympathetic, in the real world, your ideas, without an execution plan, are merely hallucinations.

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Originally Posted by SonicFlyer View Post
Certification and licensing are two different things.




You mean the organization that isn't allowed to exist per the Constitution? The organization which jails people for selling raw milk? The organization that jails people for making their own soap? The organization the holds armed raids on produce vendors? You mean the organization that kills hundreds of thousands of people each year because they deny proven drugs for use?

Yeah, those guys...
Should it be fixed or scrapped altogether? What would a true libertarian say?
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Originally Posted by SonicFlyer View Post
Certification and licensing are two different things.




You mean the organization that isn't allowed to exist per the Constitution? The organization which jails people for selling raw milk? The organization that jails people for making their own soap? The organization the holds armed raids on produce vendors? You mean the organization that kills hundreds of thousands of people each year because they deny proven drugs for use?

Yeah, those guys...
I made my own soap and I didn’t go to jail.
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