Scope clauses for ASA/Comair
10-15-2008, 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by 250 or point 65
you can plan your future...but because you can't tell the future, you can't "plan" on instructing for a certain period of time.
when you say you "plan" to instruct for a period of time, you sound like you are owed a job and you also sound like you aren't gonna care about instucting...only the time you're gaining
when you say you "plan" to instruct for a period of time, you sound like you are owed a job and you also sound like you aren't gonna care about instucting...only the time you're gaining
Why can't I plan on instructing for a certain period of time?All I would have to do is just modify my plans if things do pan out the way I'd hoped.
As far as your second comment....that's being a little presumputous!!! Don't you think?
atp
10-15-2008, 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by atpwannabe
Oh, I totally agree with you.
I do plan on instructing for at least 3-6 months or longer after I complete my initial training. CFI's @ Ari-Ben are averaging about 90-120 flight hours/month if I'm not mistaken. I shooting for somewhere in the 600ME/700TT to 850ME/1000TT ballpark or there abouts if hiring starts again. It may not be like it was before....but hey...getting the experiecne of interviewing is worth its weight in gold I believe.
The other thing I gotta remember is that those times listed above may not even materialize. I'll just go with the flow.
I'm not in a rush. I've waited 25-30 years for this opportunity. What's an additional 3-6 months of instructing?
atp
I do plan on instructing for at least 3-6 months or longer after I complete my initial training. CFI's @ Ari-Ben are averaging about 90-120 flight hours/month if I'm not mistaken. I shooting for somewhere in the 600ME/700TT to 850ME/1000TT ballpark or there abouts if hiring starts again. It may not be like it was before....but hey...getting the experiecne of interviewing is worth its weight in gold I believe.
The other thing I gotta remember is that those times listed above may not even materialize. I'll just go with the flow.
I'm not in a rush. I've waited 25-30 years for this opportunity. What's an additional 3-6 months of instructing?
atp
250 or point 65:
Let's take a look at exactly what I said shall we?
11-04-2008, 06:29 PM
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To answer your question, and what I think your real question is:
(1) Scope is the contract language that binds the company to the pilots on its seniority list. Scope in its most simple form says ASA pilots will perform all of ASA's flying. The problem for ASA, is that non-union SkyWest has stripped airplanes away from ASA. So at ASA you not only have to worry about the goings on in DCI, but also SkyWest Inc.'s preference for their non-union family at SkyWest Airlines.
ASA has scope that binds SkyWest and Comair has language that binds Delta. I'm not familiar enough with the language to quote the terms of those job projections.
(2) It looks like retirements will start pulling a lot of pilots through the regional ranks beginning in 2013.
(1) Scope is the contract language that binds the company to the pilots on its seniority list. Scope in its most simple form says ASA pilots will perform all of ASA's flying. The problem for ASA, is that non-union SkyWest has stripped airplanes away from ASA. So at ASA you not only have to worry about the goings on in DCI, but also SkyWest Inc.'s preference for their non-union family at SkyWest Airlines.
ASA has scope that binds SkyWest and Comair has language that binds Delta. I'm not familiar enough with the language to quote the terms of those job projections.
(2) It looks like retirements will start pulling a lot of pilots through the regional ranks beginning in 2013.
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11-09-2008, 04:01 AM
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Thanks for the clarification BuckingBar. Given the state of the 121 world, I may try entering it through a "back" door. NO PUNS INTENDED!!!
I believe doing the 91/135 thing first will better position me to make the jump to the 121 if the opportunity arises.
atp
I believe doing the 91/135 thing first will better position me to make the jump to the 121 if the opportunity arises.
atp
