Riiiiiight.

You are training to be a CFI, now start acting like a CFI. Just because something is legal, does not mean its safe. You are now a risk manager. There is no way that the risk here justifies the reward. We hear maybe once a year about some private pilot taking his family up and killing them all. This is kinda like that situation. Know your skills and don't do anything that would make your or your friend's mom go through their worst nightmare.

 

Actually, the base interpretation of the reg - that you don't need a chute for training in a maneuver that is required for any of the certificates or ratings in Part 61 - never changed. What kept changing is whether spins were required for any of them.

The only thing that ever confused people was the "any certificate or rating" language, with some folks incorrectly thinking that you had to be "going for" the certificate or rating for it to count.

 

In the 1950's every private pilot had to do spin training. At the time we nationally had around 300 stall spin accidents per year. After they ended the training requirement spin accidents have been steady decreasing to around 20 per year. The danger is not from the accidental spin but from spin training itself.

Spins are not something to mess with. The majority of spin accidents occur during maneuvering flight and not when in the pattern. To me that suggests that thrill seeking pilots went up to do spins that got away from them. Practicing spins does not make you a safer pilot. Spin awareness however does. It is a good idea to be exposed to spins as a CFI however you should leave them alone unless you are in an aerobatic plane with chutes on.

Side note: I got my "no spin" AD in the mail last week and it was for the 150 and 152.

SKyHigh

 

My take on it is the same but I would add that I think they are safe enough if you are current in doing spins in a 172 or similar. But you should ask yourself before doing them, how long it has been since you did this last. And if it is more than a few months you should probably get a short flight & ground school with an acro pilot. Active CFIs should do a few spins every so many weeks just for practice, alone or with a CFI, but not with a student.

 

Until the AD was issued as of late, I was incorporating a very tame spin into PPL training when we hit spin awareness for discussion. Of course, not being a sociopath, I asked the student beforehand if they would be interested in seeing one and wouldn't press the issue for those wanting to stay away from it.

Needless to say, I find it extremely valuable in training curriculum and find my student pilots have a much higher degree of knowledge pertaining to load factor, cross-controlled coordination, and the relationship of stall speed to bank angle, maintaining less than 30 degrees in the pattern and so on...

Like others said, its definitely not something I want to 'experiment' with. My power-off, no flaps, one turn around is good enough for me.

 

Call me crazy but I think that real upset training and tailwheel should maybe be part of CFI requirements (as well as actual IMC for CFII). Spin training that CFIs get is generally (not always) sub par. They just go up do a couple 1 turners and get the pen stroke and all of the sudden they are "proficient" in spins.

 

I just read the whole thread and I do not have much to add as most have hit it right on the money.

I taught unusual attitudes/acro for a few hundred+ hours and although you have done a spin everyone is right in saying that you are FAR from proficient in spins and spin recoveries to the point where you can scare the hell out of a friend.

As yourself these questions:
-How will the aircraft react in a spin with an aft CG? How will the recovery differ if at all?
-Same question for a forward CG
-If I enter a spin from the top of a loop and am upside down is it an inverted spin? How would you recover?
-If you are in a steep turn to the left and enter an accelerated stall in a slip which way will the aircraft spin, how will it react and how will you recover?
-What about a steep turn to the left in a accelerated stall skid situation?
-The airplane is spinning and it starts to flatten out, what do you do?

Just some things to think about that there is far more to a spin than a simple 1 G straight ahead power off entry.

So, get a QUALIFIED instructor and get out there and get actually proficient and have some fun!