log book? block time?
06-15-2009, 06:50 AM
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log book? block time?
Morning everyone.
I have a quick question regarding logging my time in my log book. I have been, up to this point, logging each individual leg since the type of flying (91) I was doing was more individual flight specific. Now that I am in the 135 world and fly the same route over and over month in and month out using the same 3 aircraft, can I just log the total time spent for the month and notate the 3 aircraft and 3 airports used? Would this still be a legal way to log my time?
I am thinking something like this:
June 1 - June 15, Airport A - Airport B - Airport C - Airport A, TT, SIC, Mulit, X-C, ...... REMARKS; X amount of trips across 14 days using N12345, N12346, N12347.
Would that be alright? It sure would simplify things.
I have a quick question regarding logging my time in my log book. I have been, up to this point, logging each individual leg since the type of flying (91) I was doing was more individual flight specific. Now that I am in the 135 world and fly the same route over and over month in and month out using the same 3 aircraft, can I just log the total time spent for the month and notate the 3 aircraft and 3 airports used? Would this still be a legal way to log my time?
I am thinking something like this:
June 1 - June 15, Airport A - Airport B - Airport C - Airport A, TT, SIC, Mulit, X-C, ...... REMARKS; X amount of trips across 14 days using N12345, N12346, N12347.
Would that be alright? It sure would simplify things.
06-15-2009, 06:51 AM
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PS: I also have the individual flight print outs from the company that breaks down each day specific with each flight. I keep these as a back up of course and could use them as a supplement with the above type of logging.
06-15-2009, 07:39 AM
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Well if you read the regs, they say:
(b) Logbook entries. For the purposes of meeting the requirements of paragraph (a) of this section, each person must enter the following information for each flight or lesson logged:
(1) General—
(i) Date.
(ii) Total flight time or lesson time.
(iii) Location where the aircraft departed and arrived, or for lessons in a flight simulator or flight training device, the location where the lesson occurred.
(iv) Type and identification of aircraft, flight simulator, or flight training device, as appropriate.
(v) The name of a safety pilot, if required by §91.109(b) of this chapter.
(2) Type of pilot experience or training—
(i) Solo.
(ii) Pilot in command.
(iii) Second in command.
(iv) Flight and ground training received from an authorized instructor.
(v) Training received in a flight simulator or flight training device from an authorized instructor.
(3) Conditions of flight—
(i) Day or night.
(ii) Actual instrument.
(iii) Simulated instrument conditions in flight, a flight simulator, or a flight training device.
I added the bold part. I'm guessing as an SIC you're working to 1500 hours for your ATP. Ditto marks work wonders. After 1500 hours you can do what you want. But if you interview somewhere down the road do you want to be the one who stands out as different?
And the G-1 is a cool plane.
(b) Logbook entries. For the purposes of meeting the requirements of paragraph (a) of this section, each person must enter the following information for each flight or lesson logged:
(1) General—
(i) Date.
(ii) Total flight time or lesson time.
(iii) Location where the aircraft departed and arrived, or for lessons in a flight simulator or flight training device, the location where the lesson occurred.
(iv) Type and identification of aircraft, flight simulator, or flight training device, as appropriate.
(v) The name of a safety pilot, if required by §91.109(b) of this chapter.
(2) Type of pilot experience or training—
(i) Solo.
(ii) Pilot in command.
(iii) Second in command.
(iv) Flight and ground training received from an authorized instructor.
(v) Training received in a flight simulator or flight training device from an authorized instructor.
(3) Conditions of flight—
(i) Day or night.
(ii) Actual instrument.
(iii) Simulated instrument conditions in flight, a flight simulator, or a flight training device.
I added the bold part. I'm guessing as an SIC you're working to 1500 hours for your ATP. Ditto marks work wonders. After 1500 hours you can do what you want. But if you interview somewhere down the road do you want to be the one who stands out as different?
And the G-1 is a cool plane.
06-15-2009, 06:36 PM
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in 121 I log per day and it looks like this
Scheduled
Buf-Ewr 1.3
Ewr-Syr 1.5
Syr-Ewr 1.5
Ewr-Pwm 1.2
I log BUF-PWM TT 5.5 and then the total landings plus the actual or night for the day and in the remarks I will put each flight number next to the corresponding leg like 3292 EWR-PWM and so on for each flight.
I used to change it only if I did a plane swap so If I flew 2 legs and swapped planes I would have 2 legs in one entry with one plane and then 2 legs with the other plane in the next entry. I no longer do that and just put the first plane and make a mention in the remarks of the swap.
I am no longer trying to meet any FAA minimums and up to 1500 hours it was more detailed, I no longer care to deal with the time it takes.
Scheduled
Buf-Ewr 1.3
Ewr-Syr 1.5
Syr-Ewr 1.5
Ewr-Pwm 1.2
I log BUF-PWM TT 5.5 and then the total landings plus the actual or night for the day and in the remarks I will put each flight number next to the corresponding leg like 3292 EWR-PWM and so on for each flight.
I used to change it only if I did a plane swap so If I flew 2 legs and swapped planes I would have 2 legs in one entry with one plane and then 2 legs with the other plane in the next entry. I no longer do that and just put the first plane and make a mention in the remarks of the swap.
I am no longer trying to meet any FAA minimums and up to 1500 hours it was more detailed, I no longer care to deal with the time it takes.
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