Originally Posted by Twin Wasp (Post 1200282)

This is cutting into my beer drinking. I don't know where pokey's cut and paste came from but will you buy the Federal Register Fromm 2005?

Final § 61.55(d)(1)—The SIC pilot type rating applicant must receive the familiarization training under § 61.55(b) from a qualified pilot in command [See § 61.31(a)] or an authorized flight instructor who holds the aircraft type rating on his/her pilot certificate [See
§ 61.31(a) and § 61.195(b)]. The ground training under § 61.55(b)(1) may be given by an authorized advanced ground instructor [See § 61.215(b)], authorized flight instructor, or qualified pilot in command.

You can tell something is up in the reg because it says "Trainer" and not "Instructor."

Originally Posted by Twin Wasp (Post 1200282)

This is cutting into my beer drinking. I don't know where pokey's cut and paste came from but will you buy the Federal Register Fromm 2005?

Originally Posted by TheSultanofScud (Post 1199719)

Is there a published letter of interpretation for this, something from a specific FSDO, or something specifically documented elsewhere that supports this?

I was always under the impression that an instructor pilot in such a situation either had to be an ATP—in a 121 or 135 environment—or had to possess the type rating + a flight instructor certificate with cat-class privileges to do the same training in a part 91 operation.

I'm not saying you're wrong by any means, I'd just like to have something published to point to if what you have said is the case.

Originally Posted by VanDriver (Post 2991937)

Just did it recently for a LR-45 SIC type at the Seattle FSDO. Had to make an appointment. You can do the paper 8710 but they preferred IACRA. I did it all on IACRA and it was pretty simple. Had to show the inspector my logbook and some company specific paperwork that showed I had completed ground and flight training on the aircraft. The aircraft PIC signs into IACRA as Recommending Instructor to sign.

I don’t think you need an ATP or a CFI to be the recommending instructor. Just a PIC type.

Originally Posted by IamNotARobot (Post 2992256)

thanks for the info! I’m getting conflicting advice from a dpe Im friends with. He said the endorser must be an atp or cfi, AND the ‘chief pilot’ or flight ops director or something. But I don’t see anywhere that it says that.

how did you guys log your ground instruction?