Quick ATP reg. question
06-09-2012 | 04:50 AM
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Hmmm, better check again. You can have a frozen ATP (full ATP with turbine type, not commercial) and it has to do with the amount of turbine hours or something like that. My friend had one and I was there when the Fed issued it to him with an explanation, which I wasn't paying attention to.
06-09-2012 | 01:31 PM
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That's a Supervised Operating Experience (SOE) type rating, nothing to do with the ATP. You said yourself he had a "full ATP." What he got was a type rating in a single pilot aircraft with no turbine time so for 25 hours he needed a type rated co-pilot to ride with him. That only applied to to that type, not the ATP.
The closest thing the FAA has to the concept of a "frozen" ATP is a Letter of Competence. If you pass the ATP written and checkride before your 23rd birthday the FAA will give you a letter saying so. You put this letter in a safe place until your 23rd birthday. Then you can take the letter to a FSDO who will then issue an ATP certificate. But until you do that, you'll just a commercial pilot with an instrument rating.
The closest thing the FAA has to the concept of a "frozen" ATP is a Letter of Competence. If you pass the ATP written and checkride before your 23rd birthday the FAA will give you a letter saying so. You put this letter in a safe place until your 23rd birthday. Then you can take the letter to a FSDO who will then issue an ATP certificate. But until you do that, you'll just a commercial pilot with an instrument rating.
06-10-2012 | 04:09 PM
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Hmmm, better check again. You can have a frozen ATP (full ATP with turbine type, not commercial) and it has to do with the amount of turbine hours or something like that. My friend had one and I was there when the Fed issued it to him with an explanation, which I wasn't paying attention to.
The only US frozen ATP that I'm aware of is for someone under age 23.
06-11-2012 | 12:14 AM
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The law states that any flight deck crewmember operating in part 121 must hold an ATP, and it also states that a Captain must have 1,500 as a f/o. It doesn't say how many hours you need to obtain an ATP, that's what the NPRM is for. Right now the FAA says you need 1,500 tt in order to get an ATP but the NPRM would allow those with an aviation degree or from the military to get it with less hours (1,000).
No Congress action is required.
No Congress action is required.
06-24-2012 | 07:02 AM
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http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/ca...rm-status.html Both of these threads are asking about amendments to the 1500 hour rule - There has been a proposed amendment to the rule - 14 CFR Parts 61, 121, 135, 141, and 142
[Docket No. FAA–2010–0100; Notice No. 12–01]
RIN 2120–AJ67
Pilot Certification and Qualification Requirements for Air Carrier Operations.
The summary is this:
[Docket No. FAA–2010–0100; Notice No. 12–01]
RIN 2120–AJ67
Pilot Certification and Qualification Requirements for Air Carrier Operations.
The summary is this:
This action would create new certification requirements for pilots in air carrier operations. The proposal would require a second in command (first officer) in part 121 operations to hold an airline transport pilot (ATP) certificate and a type rating for the aircraft to be flown. The FAA proposes to allow pilots with an aviation degree or military pilot experience to obtain an ATP certificate with restricted privileges with fewer than 1,500 hours total time as a pilot. The proposal also would require at least 1,000 flight hours in air carrier operations in order to serve as a pilot in command in part 121 air carrier operations. Finally, the FAA is proposing to modify an ATP certificate with an airplane category multiengine class rating or type rating to require 50 hours of multiengine flight experience and completion of a new FAA-approved ATP Certification Training Program for a Multiengine Class Rating or Type Rating that would include academic training and training in a flight simulation training device. These proposed requirements would ensure that pilots have proper qualifications and experience in difficult operational conditions and in a multicrew environment prior to serving as pilot flightcrew members in air carrier operations.
The comment period ended in April, but no word on it passing yet.
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