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Old 06-05-2014 | 11:03 AM
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A letter from the FAA:

"...persuant (yes, that's the way they spelled it) to 14 CFR 61.3(l) and 61.51(a), The Administrator requests that you make arrangements to present your First Class Medical....."

I'm pretty certain that the FAA does not have the authority to require the making of arrangements. But being the nice guy I am, I made an arrangement and cleared my schedule for December 1st 2044 just to be safe. ;)

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I thought you didn't fly and haven't for years?
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I thought you didn't fly and haven't for years?
That is correct.
Old 06-05-2014 | 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Michael9000
A letter from the FAA:

"...persuant (yes, that's the way they spelled it) to 14 CFR 61.3(l) and 61.51(a), The Administrator requests that you make arrangements to present your First Class Medical....."

I'm pretty certain that the FAA does not have the authority to require the making of arrangements. But being the nice guy I am, I made an arrangement and cleared my schedule for December 1st 2044 just to be safe. ;)
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You don't know what a first class medical is?
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Originally Posted by Michael9000
You don't know what a first class medical is?
No. I am saying how can you have not flown for 9 years if they are asking you to present a first class medical? Is your first class medical expired?
Old 06-05-2014 | 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by ClarenceOver
...Is your first class medical expired?
BINGO, you are finally applying critical thinking before jumping to conclusions!! Wish the USMC fella could do the same.
Old 06-05-2014 | 02:57 PM
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Sounds to me as if the FAA is treating you like a crew member and that they are trying to determine the validity of you operating in such a function.

And as for the FAA's authority to "require the making of arrangements",you need to understand that the FAA is in a very unique position whereas they create, interpret and enforce their own rules. Trying to argue with the FAA as one might argue in a civil court will most likely not work and may even backfire.
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Originally Posted by Flyhayes
Sounds to me as if the FAA is treating you like a crew member and that they are trying to determine the validity of you operating in such a function.

And as for the FAA's authority to "require the making of arrangements",you need to understand that the FAA is in a very unique position whereas they create, interpret and enforce their own rules. Trying to argue with the FAA as one might argue in a civil court will most likely not work and may even backfire.
You hit that nail on the head!

That is exactly what they're doing. I also know that the pilots bill of rights is nothing like what it appears to be.

While your description of the rule making , interpreting and enforcing is a bit ambiguous, it pretty much sums up the situation. Take for instance the wording of their request. If I didn't produce the material they improperly requested, they would consider that a violation. It would take a lot of time and effort (and money) before it got before the NTSB judge who would then have to rule in my favor however, then it would be dismissed and the FAA would issue a new request which would be properly worded. So...I'll do now what I'll end up having to do anyway and produce that material for their inspection.

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Old 06-05-2014 | 03:24 PM
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I wouldn't be too sure of that.
The NTSB seems rather toothless in regards to the appellate process if what the following article states is correct.

A Dangerous New Precedent in FAA Enforcement Law - AVweb Features Article

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