Being fired after resignation !?!
 

Happy holidays guys!

I am confuse about something...
I got a job with a regional at the end of November and resigned right away from my current 135 company.
My last day was supposed to be the first week of January 16.

Now my DO wants to fire me because He wants to let me fly during my hard day off and I am opposing to that.
Can he actually fire me after I already resigned?

How would that come out and look on the pria?

He did not received the pria yet. I am starting my class with the new company at the end of January.

Thanks for your answer!

Merry Christmas


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Did you submit a letter of resignation with a paper trail via email?

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No. Our 135 Ops is pretty small. 3 pilots (one of them is me, the other one is the owner/DO) and a dispatcher. I told them in Person.


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You are screwed then. He can burn you on your PRIA by stating that you are not eligible for re-hire. That will follow you around for the rest of your flying career.

Poor guy don't watch enough Judge Judy. EVERYTHING must be done in writing! Now just bend over and fly your days off while you type up your resignation..

The regionals are hurting so bad for pilots now they won't care about an old disgruntled boss, as long as you don't lie about it.

But DAL, UA, AA, SWA, FDX and UPS will! Hate for him not to get hired at a major because his PRIA shows that he was fired from his 135. Way too many major candidates with squeaky clean PRIAs than to worry about one's sob story about how his 135 "screwed" him.

I'd contact your new employer ASAP and make sure they know and that you still plan on being there for class as scheduled.

Do you have a printed schedule showing your 'hard day off'?

If you have the paperwork to back up your refusal, IMO, you'd be OK.

If not you're in a gray zone.

If you're still working there you didn't resign. Think about that for a second...you gave notice two months prior. You didn't resign. Nice of you to do that but you could have waited.

No, he will do 3-5 clean years at a regional, and the majors won't give a squat that his boss a few years back fired him for not working on a day off. There are plenty of guys with more than 1 pink slip and DUI's, or fired from a shady 135 getting on at majors these days, let's not act like they still only take the best of the best.

Formally send a email with your notice and awarded schedule stating "I plan to work my awarded schedule and help where possible on the transition". If he does anything crazy, hire a lawyer.

In either case, face to face doesn't work for formal resignation, regardless of how close you think you are with the recipient.

Never give more than 2 weeks notice. Never ask for legal advice from pilots. Shell out a few hundred bucks (or maybe nothing) for a consultation with an aviation attorney if this is keeping you up at night.

Well since you still have more than 2 weeks left, send an email to your boss saying something like "as I informed you in person on _____(insert date), I will be resigning from XYZ company. My last day will be_________(insert date). Make sure you CC yourself at a private email address so you have a copy. That way you have a record of having given proper notice if it hits the fan later on.

How you play the fly the day off vs get fired thing is up to you. To avoid having to explain it in future interviews, fly it if you can. If not, then be honest about it and you'll be fine. I completely disagree with Czech Airman that it will screw you forever. This stuff happens and the major airline HR departments know it.

To answer you original question of "can he do it?" Yes, he can fire you any time up until your last day of employment.

Delta is only looking at Tier 1 candidates. None of those were fired from a previous airline.

Is it policy that the company can move a hard day off at the discretion of the company? If so, unfortunately, you should work that day. Might save you a lot of headaches in the future.

I know for a fact a DL SSP hire with a firing on his record. And a FDX hire a few years ago. Sure they would like clean records but we all have stories of "that guy" that got hired at a major. All I'm saying is don't act like you can't get on with some screw ups. It happens.

I'd call in sick. It will make your life easier. That way you can just "leave".

DAL SSP = some "dude" from PCL. Not a true Tier 1 candidate from off the street like this guy will be.

But this I agree with :). Or just resign effective immediately.

It does happen, but it shouldn't. With the overabundance of Tier 1 candidates with squeaky clean records, hearing of one that is not Tier 1 getting on at DAL really frosts my chops. It's so unfair to those of us that have worked diligently and sacrificed much to keep up a Tier 1 background to see someone lesser to us getting on with our dream career goal airline.

I could see you getting your chaps in an uproar if someone got hired with a DUI on their record. But a disgruntled boss over a situation like the on here? That's just silly, and any HR department worth their salt should recognize it as such.

Believe me, I wish it didn't happen. No failures/dui/letters in the file/skeletons etc here too. I'm just bored, thanks for the conversation :)

Wow. Cry me a river. The reason you're not getting hired is likely because you're sitting around blaming others for the fact that you haven't been hired. If you think you are somehow better than someone else because they were fired from a shady 135 outfit then you're going to have a lot of disappointment in your life.

I wonder is class action litigation would encourage DAL to be more receptive of those of us who are obviously Tier 1 candidates, but for some reason can't get into the front door to even interview with them?

Haven't applied to DL, but I'll never forget a few years back when I got the "thanks but we have found someone more qualified" email from US Airways. Then a week later the FO I am giving a PC to tells me about his upcoming class date with them...with 2 pinks and a dui.

That's a great idea. Sue the company you think you somehow deserve to work for. SMH.

You have no idea what I've been doing. I've networked my tail off and volunteered for everything in sight. Gone to career fairs, kissed mainline butt on the j/s. I've got all the quals and more. Can't even get a "go to heck" response from DAL.

You might call it arrogant, but I do think that I'm "better" than most pilots. Graduated "Harvard of aviation" in just over three years with honors, was on the National Champion Flight Team. Check airman and instructor at my regional.... etc. Still no call. I'm sick of it, seeing newbies with far fewer quals getting the call to DAL, while I waste my talents flying the RJ for thousands of more hours.

On what basis would you allege discrimination?

"Your honor, we allege It's so unfair to those of us that have worked diligently and sacrificed much to keep up a Tier 1 background to see someone lesser to us getting on with our dream career goal airline."

Did you bust him? It would have taken every ounce of my being to resist the temptation to bust him.

I don't know if it helps, but a lot of 135 places fire people when they put in two weeks notice. It seemed like it was standard ops for awhile. I got fired the day I put in my two weeks and so did some of my friends (at different companies). I guess what I am saying is it not that uncommon a practice and HR people are probably in the know.

Discrimination based on their lack of qualification compared to me. I was thinking that even the threat of litigation and the bad press that would ensue would persuade DAL to hire us.

Attitude is everything. Acting entitled wont get you anywhere. Just ask the hundreds if not thousands of so called "teir 1 candidates" some with decades of heavy jet PIC time, or heavy Military time, that dont get a CJO. HR doesnt like, and pilots dont want to share a cockpit with folks who are full of themselves.

[QUOTE=GrassLandings;2034038]Attitude is everything. Acting entitled wont get you anywhere. Just ask the hundreds if not thousands of so called "teir 1 candidates" some with decades of heavy jet PIC time, or heavy Military time, that dont get a CJO. HR doesnt like, and pilots dont want to share a cockpit with folks who are full of themselves.[/QUOTE]

I agree. I'm not full of myself. I'm actually a nice guy. I'm just tired of seeing lesser qualified pilots getting my dream job.

With all due respect, I don't go into an interview thinking that the letters ERAU will get me a job before anyone else.

Why not? It should.

Wow. I have no doubt it would be all of our pleasure to have the privilege to fly with you. It doesn't sound like you'd pass the interview anyway.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha. This explains so much.

It's not the quals that gets you hired.

GF

[QUOTE=Czech Airman;2034040]Sorry, I wasnt saying that directly at you. Nor am I saying you dont deserve a call from a legacy. Im sure you would be a great candidate and a good fit at any legacy.
Was just pointing out that a pure abundance of "qualifications" in todays world, doesnt mean as much as it used to. HR departments place heavy favoritism to good attitudes, volunteering, etc. many articles from CEO's, Ivy league schools etc, show a trend in companies finding qualified candidates and good fitting personalities. Not just the best candidate on paper. I dont know the algorythim behind it, and quite frankly it sometimes does not make sense

I agree with you, seeing folks with buddies at majors get hired overmore experienced guys isnt entirely fair. Those with minimal experience, a pink slip or two, etc are the minority. Maybe they have family in HR? Or dad is a senior pilot. Who knows. But at the end of the day the world isnt fair. We just have to deal with the hand we are dealt. Our numbers will be called eventually.