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rickair7777 04-20-2018 07:35 AM


Originally Posted by jcountry (Post 2576364)
This sort of thing will happen eventually.

And then an accident will occur because of it.

IMO, political and business interests who are enamored with tech, innovation, and change at all costs, and for their own sake, will rush into this with catastrophic consequences.


Originally Posted by jcountry (Post 2576364)
And then it will stop. Forever.

Not forever, but it will be set back decades due to political backlash.


Originally Posted by jcountry (Post 2576364)
We can all see what a stupid idea it is, but mgmt and politicians have to find out the hard way.

Yup.

The fundamental problem with auomated airlines (and other vehicles) is you need operators, manufacturers, customers, regulators, and politicians to all be in agreement. And in the case of airplanes *somebody* has to make a VERY large investment, with an ROI timeline of decades. Politicians and airline CEO's don't get ahead by looking at the long-term, so really that will be up to the airframers (who will need some degree of assurance that it can be certified and sold). Chicken or Egg?

Monkeyfly 04-20-2018 07:56 AM

I don't think a robot could ever move these switches, I think we're safe. :D http://postachio-images.s3.amazonaws...1c2a7db0ee.jpg

BoilerUP 04-20-2018 08:27 AM

http://www.propbay.com/attachments/o...al-9000-1a.jpg

WhisperJet 04-20-2018 08:36 AM

File this in the "just because we can doesn't mean we should" drawer...

Twin Wasp 04-20-2018 08:57 AM


Originally Posted by FlyingMaryJane (Post 2576345)
first starting at the Fedex UPS level and my opinion is we are less than 5 years away for the cargo sector to be experimenting with this in the cockpits.... a little longer until the airlines get it though... 10 years though is an eternity in technology.

The FAA has been working on CPDLC for 15+ years and you don't see yet in domestic airspace. By the time they're ready for pilotless aircraft we'll be using Star Trek transporters.

Grumble 04-20-2018 09:20 AM

There is no such thing as an impenetrable network, and that one reason is why we won’t have single pilot airplanes.

PowderFinger 04-20-2018 11:00 AM


Originally Posted by Grumble (Post 2576457)
There is no such thing as an impenetrable network, and that one reason is why we won’t have single pilot airplanes.

True. However, if we can sell a seat cheap enough, and management keeps or increases their bonuses, stockholders get their returns, and losses are acceptable, almost everybody wins. ;)

PowderFinger 04-20-2018 11:01 AM


Originally Posted by BoilerUP (Post 2576408)

Trying to antagonize IBM?

BKbigfish 04-20-2018 11:37 AM

We will have single pilot cargo ops within 15-20 years if not sooner. My money is on 10-15 years. Single pilot passenger ops will come 10-15 years after the cargo carriers. Single pilot assisted by remote pilot on the ground. The pilot is there to override in case of emergency, computer hack, or loss of contact with ground station. Don’t kid yourselves... it’s coming. And a lot sooner than everybody thinks. I hope I’m wrong.

FlyyGuyy 04-20-2018 12:14 PM

The time is now to put it in contract that we will require 1000+ an hour if they want single pilot ops. Regardless of the circumstances.


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