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Originally Posted by Grumble (Post 2576457)

There is no such thing as an impenetrable network, and that one reason is why we won’t have single pilot airplanes.

Very true.

Hackers already see airliners as targets.

They absolutely would get in and highjinks would ensue.

After some catastrophic accidents, frightened airline CEOs will yell: “How soon can we retrofit the whole fleet like it was before? Re-hire all pilots, at double pay if you have to! Money is no object, because our ticket sales have gone to zero! My own job is at risk! :eek: :p

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Originally Posted by BKbigfish (Post 2576536)

We will have single pilot cargo ops within 15-20 years if not sooner. My money is on 10-15 years. Single pilot passenger ops will come 10-15 years after the cargo carriers. Single pilot assisted by remote pilot on the ground. The pilot is there to override in case of emergency, computer hack, or loss of contact with ground station. Don’t kid yourselves... it’s coming. And a lot sooner than everybody thinks. I hope I’m wrong.

Personally, I don't feel like single-piloted will be a big benefit to cargo/pax operators. How many times have you reported for an all-nighter feeling less than 100%? How many times have you pressed on at the end of a long duty day just because you figured 50%+50%= 100% of one pilot? I could count at least 3 duty periods this month I would have said uncle if I'd been forced to go it alone.

I think the restrictions on duty day and irregular ops would not make sense single-piloted. Until UAV's are proven with cargo ops, I think passenger pilots will be safe.

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Originally Posted by jcountry (Post 2576341)

Probably not in our careers.

Airlines took a huge step forward with CRM. Why the hell take a huge step back.

A “pilot” on the ground is not worth half a crap. Single pilot is probably decades away-if at all.

If it were safe, why wouldn’t cruise ships do it? (God knows, cruise ship companies are 100% as cheapskates as any airline could ever dream to be.)

Ships do do this, they have harbor pilots that join the crew for docking the ship. They make the big bucks too, $400K is the average salary.

Single pilot is a threat to augmented crews, where widebody staffing would be reduced.

The only people who would advocate for single-pilot transport category operations OR reducing augmented crews on long-haul flights would be people who have never flown a jet single pilot and/or never done long-haul flying.

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Originally Posted by BoilerUP (Post 2576661)

I think you’d have a hard time finding any pilot that advocates for single pilot operations. Doesn’t mean it won’t happen.

Ah it’s been a month, cue the “omg robots are taking over our jobs” post.

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Originally Posted by Mesabah (Post 2576611)

That’s like saying “only one guy is doing anything when it’s his leg...”

We all know how this stuff works. Cruise and cargo ships always have multiple people involved in sailing them. One guy might be at the controls, but that doesn’t mean he’s the only guy doing anything.

The bridge of any of those large ships is never left up to just one person.

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Originally Posted by BoilerUP (Post 2576661)

There will be many advocates from the pilot group when the time comes. The pay would increase, and the chance to rotate into a ground safety pilot would be ideal for most that live in base, and want a break.