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Originally Posted by PowderFinger (Post 2578498)

If the seats are cheap enough, management keeps or increases their bonuses, shareholders are kept happy, all of these will be acceptable risks.

Negotiate profit sharing, get skin in the game, if you think you will ride all reward and no risk you are going to be disappointed. The world is changing.

[QUOTE=Qotsaautopilot;2578391]I just love the mission of putting the population out of work. If people don’t have money how do they buy things. The middle class American dream is already harder and harder to attain because jobs that can support a family are few and far between. This leads to social issues because both parents have to work and no one is minding the shop at home. Now we are trying to eliminate one of the few well paying middle class lines of work left out there? For what? I honestly have no idea what my kids (kindergarten) are going to do for a living that makes any kind of decent money.[/QUOTE

Exactly!

Well in 1900 the big problem was disposition of horse poop. And who can forget the the whale oil shortage. I'm safe, I have all my money in corset manufacture.:D

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Originally Posted by badflaps (Post 2578717)

Well in 1900 the big problem was disposition of horse poop. And who can forget the the whale oil shortage. I'm safe, I have all my money in corset manufacture.:D

In about 1915 my great grandfather, a good person but not so good businessman, picked up a great product to sell on his route. Buggy whips. I kid you not.

Later, he had a 12 room hotel made of wood. He was smart, he saved money by not carrying fire insurance on it. It was heavily mortgaged. Then one night it burned to the ground. The bank wanted its money. He was not so good of a businessman. I kid you not.

I believe I am wiser than he.

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Originally Posted by FlyingMaryJane (Post 2576345)

Thats why there will NEVER BE A PILOT SHORTAGE!! They will always find a way to take care of it, Airbus, Boeing, NASA have been studying for years about replacing pilots with robots and machines... it first starts with single pilot and then the robots take over, first starting at the Fedex UPS level and my opinion is we are less than 5 years away for the cargo sector to be experimenting with this in the cockpits.... a little longer until the airlines get it though... 10 years though is an eternity in technology. Dont be shocked if in 10yrs or less the airlines start with the 1 pilot standard with the assistance of a robot in the right seat! Its all how you sell it over the media... technology is sold as "so cool" now a days on the TV after 5 years of successful robot flying and 1 pilot as the backup on Fedex and UPS flights then its gonna be "so cool" to have a robot fly you to Paris! It's coming guys, and you better get ready for it! Especially the young guys... The airlines don't give a crap about you...

I think you are spot on! Ive already accepted I won't be retiring from this profession. At the end of the day, its all about the money they save by removing us. They will likely say its safer to fly with a robot because they don't make mistakes like humans.

This is not only happening to pilots but it will happen to many other professions. Specially as AI takes off.

Hopefully we can elect a government that actually cares about the worker and not only the profits of corporations....It time the American worker votes a little more wisely to secure our future.

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Originally Posted by Monkeyfly (Post 2576387)

I don't think a robot could ever move these switches, I think we're safe. :D http://postachio-images.s3.amazonaws...1c2a7db0ee.jpg

Really? Because when I dictate a text message I want siri to send, a compact robotic hand comes out of my phone and physically types the message on my screen......a robot has no need to press buttons when its wired into the system.

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Originally Posted by AC560 (Post 2578620)

Negotiate profit sharing, get skin in the game, if you think you will ride all reward and no risk you are going to be disappointed. The world is changing.

I won't be dissapointed ... Not my problem. Yours.

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Originally Posted by Chupacabras (Post 2578793)

And that never fails....

Actually, if you just said no! Problem solved! We're the problem here not AI. Hell if I'm getting in any cockpit for 8+ hours by myself, there's a reason the military give supplements to single pilots crossing the pond.. What their really talking about here is fully autonomous A/C. They're just ringing the bell for a few years to get you used to single pilot b4 they ring the bell for no pilot! (Pavlov get it?)

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Originally Posted by Monkeyfly (Post 2576387)

I don't think a robot could ever move these switches, I think we're safe. :D http://postachio-images.s3.amazonaws...1c2a7db0ee.jpg

The mighty guppy overhead might not be the best representation of the situation. But if that is the only overhead you know ...

I remember sitting in the 777 a few years ago ... Watching the various bleed lights cycle on and off on the overhead while the bird was figuring out its bleed problem ... All the while me and bubba were slowly eating our breakfast while enjoying the morning view of somewhere in Europe ... It took care of the problem and reported it ... I wrote it up as well so I could feel like I was an active participant in the situation.

It's coming. :(

That picture gave me nightmares when you first posted it.