Who goes "Pilot-less" first?
06-22-2019, 08:50 AM
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I will never understand the human desire to replace themselves out of jobs, especially for something like flying an airplane. There’s something to say about getting on a plane with another human who has a vested interest in getting back to terra firma safely. Does a computer? It’ll try I guess.
One day AI gets smart enough and replaces those people whose job it is to replace human being jobs with machines. Maybe then they’ll acknowledge they went too far.
One day AI gets smart enough and replaces those people whose job it is to replace human being jobs with machines. Maybe then they’ll acknowledge they went too far.
06-22-2019, 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
I will never understand the human desire to replace themselves out of jobs, especially for something like flying an airplane. There’s something to say about getting on a plane with another human who has a vested interest in getting back to terra firma safely. Does a computer? It’ll try I guess.
One day AI gets smart enough and replaces those people whose job it is to replace human being jobs with machines. Maybe then they’ll acknowledge they went too far.
One day AI gets smart enough and replaces those people whose job it is to replace human being jobs with machines. Maybe then they’ll acknowledge they went too far.
06-22-2019, 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Meow1215
Name one complex computer system that behaves exactly as instructed, I’ll wait.
How will a pilotless plane participate in the ATC system?
What would you in the event of a systems failure?
What about an event like a loss of GPS like the CRJ has been experiencing?
Pilots use to fly planes, more and more they are becoming automation managers, someone is going to continue to have to manage the automation. It’s frequently does weird things and will continue to do so. I’m not worried.
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Why is this in the 9E sub forum?
How will a pilotless plane participate in the ATC system?
What would you in the event of a systems failure?
What about an event like a loss of GPS like the CRJ has been experiencing?
Pilots use to fly planes, more and more they are becoming automation managers, someone is going to continue to have to manage the automation. It’s frequently does weird things and will continue to do so. I’m not worried.
Off topic -
Why is this in the 9E sub forum?
The problem is that humans are not capable to understand the instructions required by the complex computer system to produce results we expect.
And therein lies the problem.
06-23-2019, 09:30 AM
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AI is a paradox. It relies on humans to create and program the AI, thus already is flawed (sorry tech geeks) Thus anything AI comes up with will eventually have a flawed response to something. We are already at a point that most of the world's pilot's skills are degraded as far as actual look at the instruments and fly the plane. Good luck when George craps the bed and a "reset qualified" FA or dispatcher has to figure it out.
06-23-2019, 05:05 PM
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At some point they will give it a shot and when one ends up crashing they will scramble to get people back into the cockpits so metal keeps moving. It’s not an if it crashes it when I like knowing there is someone sitting up there that want to get home at night just like I do and I think most the population feels the same.
06-23-2019, 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by DeltaCorrectons
At some point they will give it a shot and when one ends up crashing they will scramble to get people back into the cockpits so metal keeps moving. It’s not an if it crashes it when I like knowing there is someone sitting up there that want to get home at night just like I do and I think most the population feels the same.
Human pilots. A software glitch caused two 737’s to crash. They aren’t getting rid of computers because of it
06-24-2019, 04:16 AM
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Originally Posted by dera
Every computer system behaves exactly as instructed.
The problem is that humans are not capable to understand the instructions required by the complex computer system to produce results we expect.
And therein lies the problem.
The problem is that humans are not capable to understand the instructions required by the complex computer system to produce results we expect.
And therein lies the problem.
On a different end, how about when the east coast lost gps coverage? Even something as simple as the airline computers crashing. They can’t even get a software to work 100%, but want to stick people in a metal tube with no one at the controls? Maybe it’ll happen in my kid’s life time, but not mine.
06-24-2019, 05:39 AM
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Originally Posted by DeltaCorrectons
At some point they will give it a shot and when one ends up crashing they will scramble to get people back into the cockpits so metal keeps moving. It’s not an if it crashes it when I like knowing there is someone sitting up there that want to get home at night just like I do and I think most the population feels the same.
And to those that say AI only does what a human programs it to do, they are already working on AI that can program itself to solve unexpected problems.
I'm not advocating it, but it's coming eventually. Probably not soon though, for the same reason we fly with such antiquated computer tech in the airplane now.
06-24-2019, 06:24 AM
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Luddites crack me up.
They jump up and down celebrating when they get a great deal on an Amazon purchase of some thing-doo-dad, which is cheaper than it used to be because it is now made on a 3D printer. It cost more in the past because it was made by a skilled craftsman. A skilled craftsman who is now out of a job.
But when technology threatens the Luddite's craft, he riots and starts smashing looms.
They jump up and down celebrating when they get a great deal on an Amazon purchase of some thing-doo-dad, which is cheaper than it used to be because it is now made on a 3D printer. It cost more in the past because it was made by a skilled craftsman. A skilled craftsman who is now out of a job.
But when technology threatens the Luddite's craft, he riots and starts smashing looms.
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