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AxlF16 02-23-2022 06:57 PM


Originally Posted by Andy (Post 3377623)
You're looking at things on a different timeline than Russian leadership. They've been slowly regaining land they lost control of three and a half decades ago.
Less than a century ago, Germany attempted to conquer Russia.
Two centuries ago, France attempted to conquer Russia.
A couple of decades before that, Sweden initiated a war on Russia.
Before that, the Ottoman Empire attacked Russia.
And so on...

Again, depends on one's timeline. I posit that this buffer zone from the west is viewed in terms of centuries rather than years or decades.

Sounds like your making a lot of excuses and justifications for Russian aggression and invasions of sovereign nations. You've articulated Putin's POV very well, now can you do the same for the US, NATO, and Russian 'buffer zone' nations?

AxlF16 02-23-2022 07:09 PM


Originally Posted by Gone Flying (Post 3377852)
I’m pretty confident in our ability to defend ourselves against those threats.

Against ICBMs and hypersonic cruise missles?

trip 02-23-2022 07:17 PM

Full Russian assaults' on the Ukraine underway.

rickair7777 02-23-2022 07:26 PM


Originally Posted by AxlF16 (Post 3378027)
Against ICBMs and hypersonic cruise missles?

Don't need defense for those, we have deterrence. Putin may have miscalculated cost vs. benefit with UK, but he's not stupid or insane.

http://i.shgcdn.com/42673be6-7145-4d...ality/lighter/

chihuahua 02-23-2022 07:50 PM

Oil prices headed to the moon.

flyprdu 02-23-2022 07:54 PM


Originally Posted by chihuahua (Post 3378045)
Oil prices headed to the moon.

10,000s dead. Millions displaced. Glad you've got your priorities straight.

I thought you said Putin wasn't going to do this? What gives?

AxlF16 02-23-2022 07:55 PM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 3378032)
Don't need defense for those, we have deterrence. Putin may have miscalculated cost vs. benefit with UK, but he's not stupid or insane.

http://i.shgcdn.com/42673be6-7145-4d...ality/lighter/

I get that of course. I'm curious what Gone Flying had in mind. I doubt he was referring to deterrence and is quite happy you bailed him out.

chihuahua 02-23-2022 08:02 PM

Hiring slows down sometime during the summer. Summer air travel is a dud. Q2 and Q3 post big losses. Planes start getting parked again in the fall. The rest is history. We went woke. Time to go broke. Sad.

chihuahua 02-23-2022 08:09 PM


Originally Posted by flyprdu (Post 3378048)
10,000s dead. Millions displaced. Glad you've got your priorities straight.

I thought you said Putin wasn't going to do this? What gives?

You going to go sign up for the Ukrainian Army? Should American kids possibly grow up without a father to save Ukraine? How many people has our foreign policy killed throughout history? How has our foreign policy potentially contributed to aggravating this situation?

So far it's air strikes to in support of the breakaway regions fighting the Ukrainian army. America is my country, that's what I care about. If you feel so strongly, again, head over and sign up to fight with them.

PNWFlyer 02-23-2022 08:19 PM

"Gov. Romney, I'm glad you recognize al-Qaida is a threat, because a few months ago when you were asked what is the biggest geopolitical group facing America, you said Russia, not al-Qaida, you said Russia. And the 1980s are now calling to ask for their foreign policy back. Because the Cold War has been over for 20 years.

President Barack Obama. October 2012.


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