Climategate
01-28-2011 | 06:07 AM
#181
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Another brick in the wall, deniers of the world unite:
Himalayan glaciers not melting because of climate change, report finds - Telegraph
Himalayan glaciers not melting because of climate change, report finds - Telegraph
01-28-2011 | 06:51 AM
#182
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Once again, we are again breaking snowfall records with the 2010-2011 winter season. I know I know, it's all due to Global Warming. 
Record snow again buries Northeast - Yahoo! Malaysia News
UPDATE: Records beginning to fall with 2010-11 snow | mycentraljersey.com | MyCentralJersey.com
Syracuse area reaches average season's snowfall, with seven weeks of winter left | syracuse.com
Record snow again buries Northeast - Yahoo! Malaysia News
UPDATE: Records beginning to fall with 2010-11 snow | mycentraljersey.com | MyCentralJersey.com
Syracuse area reaches average season's snowfall, with seven weeks of winter left | syracuse.com
04-04-2011 | 04:42 AM
#183
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From: electron wrangler
Re: Climategate
The Truth, Still Inconvenient
By PAUL KRUGMAN
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/04/op...nes&emc=tha212
By PAUL KRUGMAN
Just a few weeks ago Anthony Watts, who runs a prominent climate denialist Web site, praised the Berkeley project and piously declared himself “prepared to accept whatever result they produce, even if it proves my premise wrong.” But never mind: once he knew that Professor Muller was going to present those preliminary results, Mr. Watts dismissed the hearing as “post normal science political theater.”
07-30-2018 | 06:01 PM
#184
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Look before the thread gets closed or I get violated for religion talk. This climate gate thing is just a great example that scientists are people, like politions because they made a mistake, or they have a different agenda. Don't believe them just because they are scientists. No matter what the subject.
07-30-2018 | 08:41 PM
#185
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Any time I hear someone start barking about denying global warming, I can reliably count on them to be a few bricks shy of a full load, hold a healthy share of internal redneck, and I think less of them. A lot less.
Yes, some winters are more intense, some summers more intense, and fire seasons get longer and more severe, but the larger picture, irrefutably backed by science, notes a continuing trend which is not cyclical, but due to human intervention and poor environmental stewardship. There is zero question of that, and to deny it, much like the ostrich with head below ground, is idiotic, ignorant, and short sighted. Very, very short sighted.
Yes, some winters are more intense, some summers more intense, and fire seasons get longer and more severe, but the larger picture, irrefutably backed by science, notes a continuing trend which is not cyclical, but due to human intervention and poor environmental stewardship. There is zero question of that, and to deny it, much like the ostrich with head below ground, is idiotic, ignorant, and short sighted. Very, very short sighted.
07-31-2018 | 07:04 AM
#186
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From: Engines Turn or People Swim
Any time I hear someone start barking about denying global warming, I can reliably count on them to be a few bricks shy of a full load, hold a healthy share of internal redneck, and I think less of them. A lot less.
Yes, some winters are more intense, some summers more intense, and fire seasons get longer and more severe, but the larger picture, irrefutably backed by science, notes a continuing trend which is not cyclical, but due to human intervention and poor environmental stewardship. There is zero question of that, and to deny it, much like the ostrich with head below ground, is idiotic, ignorant, and short sighted. Very, very short sighted.
Yes, some winters are more intense, some summers more intense, and fire seasons get longer and more severe, but the larger picture, irrefutably backed by science, notes a continuing trend which is not cyclical, but due to human intervention and poor environmental stewardship. There is zero question of that, and to deny it, much like the ostrich with head below ground, is idiotic, ignorant, and short sighted. Very, very short sighted.
They probably would have made more progress faster if they hadn't pushed the boundaries so hard and rushed to promote their ideas, but even a broken clock is right twice a day. I've even been involved in DoD climate change mitigation planning. It's happening.
07-31-2018 | 07:17 AM
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BS. They were confronted with a well-financed (fossil fuel industry) opposition PR campaign that lied, obfuscated and misled the usual non-reality based audience. Same folks that claimed cigarettes didn't cause cancer.
07-31-2018 | 09:09 AM
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Too many scientists abandoned accepted principles, destroying their own and others credibility, setting back their own cause. Like I said I'm not getting this from anyone's PR, this is from friends and close relatives (I have many in academia, all hard science types).
07-31-2018 | 10:09 AM
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