For folks at breeze,

How junior is the ORF base? What are upgrade times looking for someone looking to get in for a CA seat in ORF?

190: 129/61 year 1 CA/FO
220: 131/68 year 1 CA/FO

No more profit sharing

Went from a 12 year longevity scale to a seven year longevity Scale. No longer have pay scales for 2023 onward, so no cost of living adjustments are known for the future. Reactionary raises into the future.

Took away all remaining pre-funded profit sharing disbursements, $30,000 for 2022 and up to the remaining $18,000 from 2021.

Well, that's not very "nice."

I wonder why they went that route, do they still think its may 2020, or are they loosing money?

No bueno. Sounds like this experiment isn't aging well.

Anyone with the quals to fly at Moxy can also get hired at UA/DL/AA/SW. Why wouldn't they?

Exactly. I think they’ll close the doors after Xmas. They just don’t want to throw ppl out before the holidays (being NICE!). The word is out though, Breeze CKA are running out the doors with the inside scoop. Allegiant will take the 220 orders. The Delta or better contract + international trips next year will help G4 staff those airplanes.

What has G4 been putting in y’all’s kool aid?

No but what are you actually smoking?

Junior is a relative term here. No one really knows what the upgrade times look like because instead of upgrading people into bases where they need coverage, Breeze is allowing FO’s to upgrade and then sit in their current base as a senior FO until they can hold the base of their choice.


That being said, ORF is the smallest base for the group and has become a revolving door at the bottom end of the list on the FO side. The CA side is a bit of a fortress at the top.