wait, so Boeing prices are delusional but Allegiant got them for next to nothing?? Which is it?

just flew on an A321NEO. News Flash. It is not as quiet as you think. In coach you are still crammed together and the engines still make noise. Noise that is just as loud as any other aircraft in it class. Now turbo props are loud.

oh and the people that run the airline care a lot about dispatch reliability. Not if the pilots have a tray table. Oh and I almost forgot passengers have no idea what they are flying on so they don’t oh an Airbus is going to be quiet and comfortable!! I am sure Spirit passengers are saying just that between fist fights.

The only pilots who actually enjoy flying a 737 either haven't flown an airbus or they have Stockholm syndrome.

You must not ride in the back much….drive to work I bet.
Your delusional if you think passengers on Alaskan Airways dont know the difference between a 737 and an Airbus. The planes are very different. If nothing else at least the Airbus can hold a constant temperature.

Many FO’s are looking to leave. The CA’s seem to be content enough to endure the suck. Work rules are a theory here at the moment. I wasn't joking about the charters. The scheduling committee did the math… 1:54 hr average per day on the charters next month. That’s straight up what you’re making here. No rigs. No min day. Don’t expect to break guarantee as a junior lineholder unless you sacrifice one of your 11 days off. Even then it’s a 3 hour 3 day… not worth it AT ALL

My guess? 9+ months assuming no attrition. High demand for TPA right now and none of the FO’s want to move out until they can hold it as a CA.

I have 5000 hours in the Airbus. Never actually flew it. Lots of managing however! I did have a friend who flew it for a hour when they ended up in direct law. Said it did not fly well! I enjoyed flying every Boeing I have worked. The 737 flew great, later models have better displays than the Airbus and the HUD was excellent. Cockpit was certainly smaller but I spent most of my time strangely enough seated! Copilots did have to spend about 20 extra seconds after engine start moving switches on the 737. Oh the horror!

Wow! How is there no min daily ? Surely these basic work rules are a must. Is there anything been done or communicated about improving these things ?

Why not? Auto pilot off, auto thrust off, fight directors off, give me the bird. You had the option to fly it if you wanted.

Ppl apply but only 5% accept the CJO. Most who are leaving are FO’s. Yeah there’s no work rules or min anything man. Scheduling does seem to work with you and JR maning only happens as a last resort.
“Why should anyone apply to breeze with so many other options?” Seniority , new jets, growth…. Just like any other LCC out there. The start up phase is a nightmare, idk anyone who would like to do that again. I feel bad for Breeze, I really do. It had great potential but management has other plans $$$$. The guys who joined early on were promised a jb + Virgin culture and instead were given allegiant + mesa mentality. I hope it works out for them eventually, they have a really great pilot group whose morale is getting pretty damn low right now.

Not really, the computer joy stick and the system it’s tied into is a rudimentary FBW system with zero feedback. 70’s FBW technology. It always functions through the auto flight system in a CSS mode unless it downgrades itself into direct law or you turn things off and force it there. For you Boeing guys CWS. I never saw anyone hand fly a Boeing in that mode. The funny thing is the more you move that stick the worse most people fly it as the computers are always trying to correct any attitude changes and you end up working against each other. I have watched guys steering that stick like they are trying to make whipped cream on a bumpy approach. I often ask them to let go of the stick. Things get much better. That’s why you see experience Airbus drivers simply bump the stick now and then when they want a attitude change.
The A220 is however a completely different FBW system that incorporates multiple feedback inputs through rate motion feedback and speed sense. To semi quote AvWeek the A220 tries to engage the pilot in what the aircraft is doing. The rest of the Airbus fleet tries to isolate the pilot. The 787 FBW system is similar to the A220 in design thought.