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Sausage 01-16-2022 10:18 AM


Originally Posted by Swapapotamoose (Post 3353726)
Ppl apply but only 5% accept the CJO. Most who are leaving are FO’s. Yeah there’s no work rules or min anything man. Scheduling does seem to work with you and JR maning only happens as a last resort.
“Why should anyone apply to breeze with so many other options?” Seniority , new jets, growth…. Just like any other LCC out there. The start up phase is a nightmare, idk anyone who would like to do that again. I feel bad for Breeze, I really do. It had great potential but management has other plans $$$$. The guys who joined early on were promised a jb + Virgin culture and instead were given allegiant + mesa mentality. I hope it works out for them eventually, they have a really great pilot group whose morale is getting pretty damn low right now.

This^^ I’ve been here since the beginning and this is the realistic landscape of this Micky Mouse club called MXY

chihuahua 01-16-2022 10:22 AM


Originally Posted by Swapapotamoose (Post 3353726)
Ppl apply but only 5% accept the CJO. Most who are leaving are FO’s. Yeah there’s no work rules or min anything man. Scheduling does seem to work with you and JR maning only happens as a last resort.
“Why should anyone apply to breeze with so many other options?” Seniority , new jets, growth…. Just like any other LCC out there. The start up phase is a nightmare, idk anyone who would like to do that again. I feel bad for Breeze, I really do. It had great potential but management has other plans $$$$. The guys who joined early on were promised a jb + Virgin culture and instead were given allegiant + mesa mentality. I hope it works out for them eventually, they have a really great pilot group whose morale is getting pretty damn low right now.

What do they do for junior manning people? You pull into the gate from your single turn and get told you have a second turn now? Call people on their days off? (everyone should know not to answer the phone on their day off, unless they want to work) Or do they go in after awards come out and put stuff on people's schedules or something ridiculous like that?

Cyio 01-16-2022 11:17 AM


Originally Posted by PNWFlyer (Post 3353526)
wait, so Boeing prices are delusional but Allegiant got them for next to nothing?? Which is it?

just flew on an A321NEO. News Flash. It is not as quiet as you think. In coach you are still crammed together and the engines still make noise. Noise that is just as loud as any other aircraft in it class. Now turbo props are loud.

oh and the people that run the airline care a lot about dispatch reliability. Not if the pilots have a tray table. Oh and I almost forgot passengers have no idea what they are flying on so they don’t oh an Airbus is going to be quiet and comfortable!! I am sure Spirit passengers are saying just that between fist fights.

As someone who commutes weekly on both types, Airbus are generally way more comfortable and quite. With that said, the Max is very quite as well but you are still in a 737 tube.

As for the disparaging remark about Spirit passengers, we are far from being the only ones that deal with idiots. Haven’t SWA, United, Delta and AA all had FA’s assaulted? Let’s leave companies out of it.

jaxsurf 01-16-2022 12:23 PM


Originally Posted by Cyio (Post 3353864)
As for the disparaging remark about Spirit passengers, we are far from being the only ones that deal with idiots. Haven’t SWA, United, Delta and AA all had FA’s assaulted?

You’re absolutely right.

Spirit pax tend to fist fight each other in the terminal :D

Cyio 01-16-2022 12:26 PM


Originally Posted by jaxsurf (Post 3353901)
You’re absolutely right.

Spirit pax tend to fist fight each other in the terminal :D

Not my problem then lol

PNWFlyer 01-16-2022 02:21 PM


Originally Posted by Cyio (Post 3353864)
As someone who commutes weekly on both types, Airbus are generally way more comfortable and quite. With that said, the Max is very quite as well but you are still in a 737 tube.

As for the disparaging remark about Spirit passengers, we are far from being the only ones that deal with idiots. Haven’t SWA, United, Delta and AA all had FA’s assaulted? Let’s leave companies out of it.

my intent is was not to disparage Spirt. Just pointing out the absurdity that any passers is actually comfortable in a ULCC’s seating configuration regardless of aircraft type.

additionally, 99% of airline passengers don’t know the difference between a 737, a 320 and a tuna fish.

I have heard plenty of comments from people talking about flying in a 737 at Frontier.

Tpinks 01-16-2022 03:35 PM


Originally Posted by SJS Maverick (Post 3351858)
Another thing on pay that might help with pilots switching to the A220 is that for every A220 pilot on property an E190 pilot will be paid A220 pay in seniority order. Still not great but a second year captain on the E190 could be paid $160hr.

160/hr for a yr 2 CA on the Ejet is still WELL below industry average for that plane. I doubt they care that people are getting A220 pay to fly the Ejet. Its going to be funny seeing Ejet FO's get paid A220 CA pay to fly in the right seat of the Ejet though. But Im Not sure why you bring something like this up when it only affect people currently here as of December. Nobody hired onto the Ejet in 2022 will receive 220 pay.

TommyJ1026 01-16-2022 04:49 PM

New Hires
 
Any new hires getting TPA? I did the video interview yesterday. Trying to figure out how risky it would be trying to bet on being able to hold Tampa. I would be forfeiting United Aviate for it but, yes, I do hate commuting that much.

AirBear 01-16-2022 05:47 PM

The majors will always have personality testing for one reason: Germanwings Flt 9525. Also some lesser events like the JetBlue PIC although that could have been something that developed well after he was hired. My previous company had a pilot who had a serious personality disorder. In lieu of firing him they let him use up his 3 years of medical leave then terminated him. Afterwards some Security Alerts Came out about him trying to access a flight line at various FBO's.

B737 vs. A320. I flew both back in the day at USAir. At NetJets I rode on both quite a bit when positioning. The A320 cabin width is 12' 2" while the 737's are 11' 7" so you get an extra 7" on the bus. Makes a difference. A320 cockpit was very roomy compared to the 737. A320 did not have the "feel" the 737 did, I'll admit that but overall I liked the A320 a lot more, but then I'm a computer geek so the bus appealed to me.

Keep in mind the A220 isn't really an Airbus product, it's Bombardier where it was known as the C-series. So it's going to be quite different from native Airbus products.

hotmicoffNOW 01-16-2022 06:59 PM


Originally Posted by TommyJ1026 (Post 3354062)
Any new hires getting TPA? I did the video interview yesterday. Trying to figure out how risky it would be trying to bet on being able to hold Tampa. I would be forfeiting United Aviate for it but, yes, I do hate commuting that much.

Lol no. Very senior. If you get it expect a nice time on reserve getting sent out of base to cover ORF flying.


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