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BobbyLeeSwagger 01-19-2022 08:09 AM


Originally Posted by hotmicoffNOW (Post 3355785)
The 190 was a plug for the 220, but the plan that was communicated was that Tampa more than likely would be a dual base. A good chunk of the base moved in and settled down. Now they have three months to pack up, get ready to commute to day trips, or leave.

The 190 will continue to grow, just not in Florida 💀

I'd head ​​​to G4 immediately for the PIE base then figure things out from there. Or cast a wide net and move/commute to wherever you want to be.

Either way sorry to hear, wouldn't have guessed TPA would be first to go.

chihuahua 01-19-2022 08:19 AM


Originally Posted by hotmicoffNOW (Post 3355785)
The 190 was a plug for the 220, but the plan that was communicated was that Tampa more than likely would be a dual base. A good chunk of the base moved in and settled down. Now they have three months to pack up, get ready to commute to day trips, or leave.

The 190 will continue to grow, just not in Florida 💀

I'm sure everyone that moved down here probably wanted to move here since the west coast of Florida is quite a nice place to live. Not to mention getting away from all the covid non-sense that was still gripping the rest of the country when the airline started. The worst part really seems to be that all of those guys are probably senior by now, but they got themselves a 3 year equipment lock where they can't bid over to the 220 when their seniority would probably be able to hold it before the three years is up. What's the total number of E-Jets they're looking to operate along with the A220s? I wonder what the qualifications will look like when the A220 gets established and they start trying to hire FOs into it.

chihuahua 01-19-2022 08:23 AM


Originally Posted by BobbyLeeSwagger (Post 3355794)
I'd head ​​​to G4 immediately for the PIE base then figure things out from there. Or cast a wide net and move/commute to wherever you want to be.

Either way sorry to hear, wouldn't have guessed TPA would be first to go.

I think at G4 you'd just end up commuting to day trips at worse places than the remaining Breeze E-Jet bases at least for some period of time, and forget about upgrading in any of the FL bases.

JohnBurke 01-19-2022 08:39 AM


Originally Posted by SJS Maverick (Post 3352582)
I look at Australians as refugees trying to escape tyranny! Kind of feel bad for them😢

Spoken like someone who has never lived in Australia.

The wisdom of ignorance.

hotmicoffNOW 01-19-2022 08:42 AM


Originally Posted by chihuahua (Post 3355812)
I think at G4 you'd just end up commuting to day trips at worse places than the remaining Breeze E-Jet bases at least for some period of time, and forget about upgrading in any of the FL bases.

To be fair I have a friend who was just awarded PIE in training.

BobbyLeeSwagger 01-19-2022 08:49 AM


Originally Posted by chihuahua (Post 3355812)
I think at G4 you'd just end up commuting to day trips at worse places than the remaining Breeze E-Jet bases at least for some period of time, and forget about upgrading in any of the FL bases.

Gotcha, well shoot... good thing everyone's hiring then.

hotmicoffNOW 01-19-2022 08:50 AM


Originally Posted by BobbyLeeSwagger (Post 3355794)
I'd head ​​​to G4 immediately for the PIE base then figure things out from there. Or cast a wide net and move/commute to wherever you want to be.

Either way sorry to hear, wouldn't have guessed TPA would be first to go.

Good thing F9 has a base in TPA too.

hotmicoffNOW 01-19-2022 08:52 AM


Originally Posted by chihuahua (Post 3355805)
I'm sure everyone that moved down here probably wanted to move here since the west coast of Florida is quite a nice place to live. Not to mention getting away from all the covid non-sense that was still gripping the rest of the country when the airline started. The worst part really seems to be that all of those guys are probably senior by now, but they got themselves a 3 year equipment lock where they can't bid over to the 220 when their seniority would probably be able to hold it before the three years is up. What's the total number of E-Jets they're looking to operate along with the A220s? I wonder what the qualifications will look like when the A220 gets established and they start trying to hire FOs into it.

Yep it’s rich that the most senior will have to commute while the most junior pilots at the company will get TPA.

I think they wanted 30 190’s in total over the next 2 years? Then obviously 1-1.5 220’s per month

BobbyLeeSwagger 01-19-2022 08:55 AM


Originally Posted by hotmicoffNOW (Post 3355842)
Yep it’s rich that the most senior will have to commute while the most junior pilots at the company will get TPA.

I think they wanted 30 190’s in total over the next 2 years? Then obviously 1-1.5 220’s per month

That seat lock was always gonna be a problem, smh. Having junior guys making more money, better qol in some cases, and now the base option while senior folks are stuck on the sidelines. All in the name of training costs... i wonder what the over/under is on that in relation to attrition related training costs.

Junglejuice 01-19-2022 09:35 AM


Originally Posted by BobbyLeeSwagger (Post 3355846)
That seat lock was always gonna be a problem, smh. Having junior guys making more money, better qol in some cases, and now the base option while senior folks are stuck on the sidelines. All in the name of training costs... i wonder what the over/under is on that in relation to attrition related training costs.

I would bet that due to the A220 being new the company is requiring more time and experience on larger aircraft for the initial group of pilots who fly this plane. Anyone know the time requirements for Australian pilots? I wouldn't be surprised if they require lots of command time on a larger jet and 7500 hours or more experience. I dont think they will be hiring 1,500 hour Australian pilots.

Yes, more junior pilots will be going to Tampa to fly the A220 but the ones hired on the E-190 will get the opportunity to bid it later. There is a reason for the 3 year seat lock.

It is the nature of a startup. Obviously there are good and bad things that come along with it. It is not for everyone, for sure, but to the ones who take the risk there may be a light at the end of the tunnel.

Just my .02 cents


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