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TransWorld 05-09-2022 07:14 PM


Originally Posted by symbian simian (Post 3419495)
I think Canadian grammar requires a "," before the "eh".

And a Zed at the end of the alphabet, eh?

shortspatula 05-09-2022 07:24 PM


Originally Posted by Parma3980 (Post 3419464)
Can i get the insight from those already at Breeze how it is. How is the training, the airbus ect. I live in Tampa so I want to know the likely hood that I could be Tampa based of if not immediately how soon. Is it easy to ride the company to work. What about amount of flight time. And pay credit per month? Can you make money, overtime thanks.
any info will help

Just out of curiosity what kind of flight time do you have?

symbian simian 05-09-2022 09:13 PM


Originally Posted by TransWorld (Post 3419819)
And a Zed at the end of the alphabet, eh?

There is no zee in the ABC (before we even start on his handle being " GrammerPolice")

220buttonpusher 05-10-2022 04:39 AM


Originally Posted by Parma3980 (Post 3419464)
Can i get the insight from those already at Breeze how it is. How is the training, the airbus ect. I live in Tampa so I want to know the likely hood that I could be Tampa based of if not immediately how soon. Is it easy to ride the company to work. What about amount of flight time. And pay credit per month? Can you make money, overtime thanks.
any info will help

The airplane is very cool. They did a good job making it. The training is very gentlemanly as in straightforward and fair. Being a startup, the first year or so is going to be very up in the air, but with the current growth plans Tampa should be a reality fairly soon. There’s no way to know until we start seeing movement. Obviously riding on your own metal is an option however keep in mind the business model here doesn’t have daily flights on most routes at the moment. If you’re referring to flight time in reference to what you need to get hired, most DECs are 10,000+ hours. I’m not sure what the time requirements will be when they start hiring CQFOs and FOs. Current hourly rate on the 220 is 167, with a 70 hour guarantee that is paid during training. Making money is a matter of perspective to what you’re used and your financial needs, but as someone alluded to, budget on guarantee, but you could definitely expect to be busy that first year or so. I hope this helps. Good luck!

Parma3980 05-10-2022 05:58 PM

Thanks for the intel
 
Sorry about the spelling I typed it in a hurry and I suck at typing. 15,000+ hours 30years 121 airline experience. Mostly wide body.

symbian simian 05-10-2022 08:59 PM


Originally Posted by Parma3980 (Post 3420251)
Sorry about the spelling I typed it in a hurry and I suck at typing. 15,000+ hours 30years 121 airline experience. Mostly wide body.

No offence (I took the first and only call and still at NK 9 years later), isn't there better options with your experience??

bonvoyage 05-10-2022 09:33 PM


Originally Posted by symbian simian (Post 3420331)
No offence (I took the first and only call and still at NK 9 years later), isn't there better options with your experience??

Where? Other than FedEx/UPS, where? Go sit on the bottom of a reserve list below 14,000 pilots younger than him for $90/ph? Or worse NK/F9 for ~$60?

symbian simian 05-10-2022 09:59 PM


Originally Posted by bonvoyage (Post 3420344)
Where? Other than FedEx/UPS, where? Go sit on the bottom of a reserve list below 14,000 pilots younger than him for $90/ph? Or worse NK/F9 for ~$60?

Just spoke to an exNK guy. Back in his hometown after commuting for 2 months, and off reserve after 6. he's at UA. Average AA pilot is probably 56, he could be younger than that and retire halfway up the list. Yeah, if he has 1 year left it makes sense to look at first year pay. I would take any of the big 6 over breeze/avelo/airbahn/skybus. Second year FO pay at the legacies is more than 2nd year captain pay at breeze.

shortspatula 05-10-2022 11:06 PM


Originally Posted by symbian simian (Post 3420348)
Just spoke to an exNK guy. Back in his hometown after commuting for 2 months, and off reserve after 6. he's at UA. Average AA pilot is probably 56, he could be younger than that and retire halfway up the list. Yeah, if he has 1 year left it makes sense to look at first year pay. I would take any of the big 6 over breeze/avelo/airbahn/skybus. Second year FO pay at the legacies is more than 2nd year captain pay at breeze.


That second year FO is in the dark somewhere at 3am doing red eyes still at the bottom of a long list gone from home even if he’s based where he lives, definitely if he’s at frontier or spirit. But ok he will be top 5%, some day. Ive got buddies at United trying to leave for FedEx and others. It’s not all sunshine and roses for all. Possibility of being at the top of the list now, day trips so you can be home etc is a good gig too. Assuming you upgrade quick, pay is still better than legacy FO short term. I’m sure pay will go up to better match the competitors, it’s a startup.

apc1432 05-11-2022 05:07 AM


Originally Posted by Parma3980 (Post 3420251)
Sorry about the spelling I typed it in a hurry and I suck at typing. 15,000+ hours 30years 121 airline experience. Mostly wide body.

Pilots should never apologize for there spelling and grammar. If we were paid to be english majors we'd be working at Starbucks. (They're there their dude)

"Captain before this single engine approach to mins in a snowstorm in July...the passengers are asking you to take this spelling and grammars test." said no one ever.

I have similar experience to above and chose Breeze as A220 DEC over 757, 767 and 777FO offers, been there done that, not enough career time left for upgrade to factor in...,unless age 67 happens! lol
Like the A220, Breeze is a new and exciting career option for the right pilot.



Originally Posted by symbian simian (Post 3420331)
No offence (I took the first and only call and still at NK 9 years later), isn't there better options with your experience??

So you have an opinion. yea


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