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Old 05-11-2024, 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by bonvoyage View Post
Almost all of the trips leave before 8am and return after 9pm. So you will commute in the day before, and commute home the day after. IF youíre a line holder. For reserve, enjoy 12 days off and no crashpads around an airport like BDL. TPA and MCO have crashpads because other airlines are based there
How long is it taking to get a FL base for CA? Most junior guy in each base?
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Old 05-13-2024, 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Swapapotamoose View Post
They are not, does DN have any control on how much B6 pilots make? Because he does at Azul. Ask any JB pilot who was there in the beginning and they will tell you that DN had famously regretted sharing the company stocks with them, and was once quoted saying that he paid them too much. When I came to breeze I thought the stock was going to be dished out to all of us who were there from the beginning. That didnít happen. Listen man you obviously like it there , and thatís okay. To each their own , but someone whoís a Capt at spirit shouldnít be jumping ship to Allegiant 2.0. Breeze will always follow the allegiant model which is keeping the controllable operating costs as low as possible, the biggest one being pilot salaries 😉.
To be fair we need to give them the opportunity to actually have sustained profits. Of course itís been a big gamble coming here, and it still is even though the airline has started to become established. The pilots are going to want their DC, profit sharing, also recently we started to lag behind on the A220 pay again. We will see if they truly want this airline to be the best place to work as theyíve said many times.

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Old 05-13-2024, 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by BusDrivrr View Post
How long is it taking to get a FL base for CA? Most junior guy in each base?
Most junior CAs for the FL bases have been here about a year and a half. Junior FOs, out of training maybe a month or two after. The RSW base will open in Oct. For reference we have been told that about 75% of current pilots are already where they want to be based.
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Old 05-13-2024, 09:29 AM
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Are there any plans to open a Breeze base in ORD or MDW? Spirit FO right now and I live in Chicago and am very open to going to Breeze.
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Old 05-14-2024, 04:43 AM
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Originally Posted by AR1978 View Post
Are there any plans to open a Breeze base in ORD or MDW? Spirit FO right now and I live in Chicago and am very open to going to Breeze.
It was explained to the other Spirit pilot that it is better to stay at Spirit than to make a lateral move between LCCs. Spirit will be ok, and even if they donít make it you will have preferential hiring at a legacy if they go under.
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Old 05-14-2024, 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by bonvoyage View Post
It was explained to the other Spirit pilot that it is better to stay at Spirit than to make a lateral move between LCCs. Spirit will be ok, and even if they donít make it you will have preferential hiring at a legacy if they go under.
You have to consider theres quite a few FOs at spirit that were CFIs not too long ago and probably have less than 500 hours of turbine time. Even if spirit goes through with furloughs they are not competitive at a legacy. If AR1978 has thousands and thousands of hours of 121 time then I agree donít lateral to Breeze, but if theyíre a lower time pilot then Iíd make the jump if I were them.
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Old 05-14-2024, 12:36 PM
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A lot of people overlook another reality at Breeze - that being the inherent instability of the business model. Sure, CHS/MCO/TPA etc. are great bases today, but in the years to come, nothing says Breeze will stay. In fact, its highly likely they will reduce service/leave. Breeze stimulates traffic. As an airport gains more traffic, other players enter/increase service. Breeze runs from this. It's model thrives on moving away from popular places/routes. It drives me insane every time I fly with someone who says "I'm just here so I can live in X base."

Look at PVD. It had commutable trips to MCO and RSW. Not anymore. Wake up. Breeze minimizes overnights when possible. This will never allow for commutable schedules - that is unless you want to work 3 day redeyes paid as 2.

Someone said all this union work is going to lead to a medicore Allegiant style contract.... I hate to say it but they are right. Your union reps all come from places with less than stellar contracts (or no union at all). The writing is on the wall.

The greatest thing to happen to Breeze was Southwest not taking delivery of the MAX 7.
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Old 05-14-2024, 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by AR1978 View Post
Are there any plans to open a Breeze base in ORD or MDW? Spirit FO right now and I live in Chicago and am very open to going to Breeze.
Thats a hard NO.
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Old 05-14-2024, 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by leftapproved View Post
A lot of people overlook another reality at Breeze - that being the inherent instability of the business model. Sure, CHS/MCO/TPA etc. are great bases today, but in the years to come, nothing says Breeze will stay. In fact, its highly likely they will reduce service/leave.
Where are they going to go?
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Old 05-16-2024, 12:10 PM
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Where are they going to go?
Anywhere we have zero competition at. If a airline even puts their regional planes on our route we quit flying it
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