BusDrivrr

How long is it taking to get a FL base for CA? Most junior guy in each base?

bluespoon

To be fair we need to give them the opportunity to actually have sustained profits. Of course it’s been a big gamble coming here, and it still is even though the airline has started to become established. The pilots are going to want their DC, profit sharing, also recently we started to lag behind on the A220 pay again. We will see if they truly want this airline to be the best place to work as they’ve said many times.

bluespoon

Most junior CAs for the FL bases have been here about a year and a half. Junior FOs, out of training maybe a month or two after. The RSW base will open in Oct. For reference we have been told that about 75% of current pilots are already where they want to be based.

AR1978

Are there any plans to open a Breeze base in ORD or MDW? Spirit FO right now and I live in Chicago and am very open to going to Breeze.

bonvoyage

It was explained to the other Spirit pilot that it is better to stay at Spirit than to make a lateral move between LCCs. Spirit will be ok, and even if they don’t make it you will have preferential hiring at a legacy if they go under.

Flika

You have to consider theres quite a few FOs at spirit that were CFIs not too long ago and probably have less than 500 hours of turbine time. Even if spirit goes through with furloughs they are not competitive at a legacy. If AR1978 has thousands and thousands of hours of 121 time then I agree don’t lateral to Breeze, but if they’re a lower time pilot then I’d make the jump if I were them.

leftapproved

A lot of people overlook another reality at Breeze - that being the inherent instability of the business model. Sure, CHS/MCO/TPA etc. are great bases today, but in the years to come, nothing says Breeze will stay. In fact, its highly likely they will reduce service/leave. Breeze stimulates traffic. As an airport gains more traffic, other players enter/increase service. Breeze runs from this. It's model thrives on moving away from popular places/routes. It drives me insane every time I fly with someone who says "I'm just here so I can live in X base."

Look at PVD. It had commutable trips to MCO and RSW. Not anymore. Wake up. Breeze minimizes overnights when possible. This will never allow for commutable schedules - that is unless you want to work 3 day redeyes paid as 2.

Someone said all this union work is going to lead to a medicore Allegiant style contract.... I hate to say it but they are right. Your union reps all come from places with less than stellar contracts (or no union at all). The writing is on the wall.

The greatest thing to happen to Breeze was Southwest not taking delivery of the MAX 7.

leftapproved

Thats a hard NO.

bluespoon

Where are they going to go?

bonvoyage

Anywhere we have zero competition at. If a airline even puts their regional planes on our route we quit flying it